Wanted Software?
 

Yo!

I really can't think of much more I'd want from my IT (software-wise) that isn't available in one form or another out there. Is there anything you guys would like to see ported to or created for the ITs? Just wanted to know because I have been learning a bit of Python and I think I can remember a little C++, but I can't think of anything to create that would be of any use ;)

Ideas are appreciated!

- Ty

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A brain training game.

It would be nice.


Rgs.

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Some cooler games? Blob wars? Cube? Would they be easy to port?

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A good offline RSS reader. (How about porting Liferea? It's gtk based. There are a couple other *nix rss readers that they recommend on that page too.)

Current options are quite limited..

Built in RSS reader.
Pros: simple, preinstalled, has desktop applet, split pane view.
Cons: Very limited features and customization. There's a bug that may delete your rss list.

Claws mail w/ RSS plugin.
Pros: More configuration, good features.
Cons: no split view, can not be configured to (pre)download linked images for offline browsing.

PS: Is there a version of scrabble for NIT?

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Alright, well...

Blob wars compiling is mussed, we'll hafta see :(

The RSS Reader I will have to look into, but it's a good idea, and I have not seen scrablle around...

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The shipped RSS Reader is based on Liferea. Many of the IT OS "value-add" applications over and above the Maemo core are based on existing open source projects:

RSS Reader <- Liferea
E-Mail <- Sylpheed
Media Player <- Helix Player
...

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One thing I would like to have for the Nokia N800 is a Bible Reader where you can look up the Strong's numbers and maybe a few commentaries.

Believe it or not there is a command line Bible for Linux, http://dvc.org.uk/sketches/brs.html , that I think is really neat. There is also a Gnome front end for it here, http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/gnome-bible/ . Sometimes I like to get back to the basics and use the command line utilities, although the GUI counterparts somtimes makes more sense.

I know Rapier is out but it is a little slow and I cannot look up Strong's number, or least I haven't figured out how to yet. Also I'm aware of Thummim, but this does not have Strong's numbers for it.

I am not a programmer and I do not know how to program yet, other than some simple shell and perl scripts. But do like checking out how different programs work. If there is anything I can assist with in getting this accomplished let me know.

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Newton-like handwriting recognition (with multilingual and cursive options)
The equivalent of the Newton Notes program (ask me about it)
Fully functional Abiword
Easy flat-file database, preferrably a clone of the Psion's Data
LyX (would need GhostScript as well)
"Normal" Firefox (as in: Fully functional)
Painting program like ArtRage
A "resume last file", or even better: "resume last X files", option in mplayer
Easy middle- and right-click emulation (so that I can open ITT threads each in their own tab)

I have lots more, but those are the urgent ones. When can I expect the programs to be ready? :rolleyes:

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Ok, of course I started with the easiest thing first ;)

Bible Reader for the command line: http://itablet.co.nr/bible_1.0-1_armel.deb

Blob Wars will not compile because SDL is being a *****, so I will have to see if I can find a way around this little problem... Liferea is being looked at :)

And Karel, those are huge... But, I'm thinking I could get Firefox over, and maybe muss with mplayer a bit, but it'll take a little time.

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My biggest need is a fully-functional abiword that will rw .doc files. The most functional option now is 2.2.7 ported to the 770--but it is fairly easy to crash - the 2.4.6 version direct from abisource is unusable it is so unstable. I read that megabyte405 is working on this- so you might want to check first- but to me this is a critical need. I use it (or try) every day.

Thanks for asking! K.

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Ah, yes, Abiword is a bit troublesome...

I will try, but I'm pretty sure megabyte is a much more skilled than I am with programming, so I doubt I'll be able to do anything he hasn't.

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1. MS Office (doc, ppt etc.) reader.

2. Better YouTube downloader/reader.

3. Better Mplayer GUI

4. Nokia Maps

Modest email client and probably webkit based browser are coming soon?

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Okay, you get I was joking, right?

BTW, AFAICT Serge is trying his hardest to get my pet peeves integrated into mplayer already. No need to double that effort.

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I had thought it was sarcasm, but I really want Firefox too, so, eh :)

And that's good to hear, Mplayer's source isn't looking too friendly right now...

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What about Quake 1... such as sdl quake :
http://www.libsdl.org/projects/quake/

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Sorry, the IT's can't do 3D...

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You sure? Theres software rendering and also q2 has been ported to 800 (although sluggish).

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Hm... well... I guess I'll have to look at that... odd...

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It's sarcasm towards Nokia, but mild-mannered humour towards you. Stuff like HWR, Firefox and mouse emulation should be provided by Nokia.

A real Newton Notes replacement would be nice though. MaemoPad+ tries, but lacks quite a lot of intuitiveness when put to extended use. OTOH, if you've never owned a Newton, I wouldn't even think about trying to write such a thing.

I find that the latest iteration runs quite smoothly, but I tend to keep bitrates down for smaller filesizes, so maybe that's just me. If it had a resume function and a way to easily select where to start or to jump to in a file, it would do pretty much anything I want from a videoplayer.

On a sidenote: Did anyone look into the portability of VLC Media Player? On my desktop it plays pretty much anything I can throw at it, but the interface needs serious work to adapt it to pen.

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I've tried to compile VLC, but the sheer number of libraries it needs, as well as the space requirements (unless you are booting from card) are insane. So, I'll try, but I don't think it'll do to well...

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VLC has been compiled with minimum requirements, see this post, please:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...7312#post77312

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As I say there, VLC's practically useless if we have mplayer - and almost certainly not worth the split effort. A better mplayer GUI is a well-known problem, of course, which anyone can work on without having to touch the mplayer source itself. UKMP is currently the best alternative and is starting to get there for videos (mmm, thumbnailing).

Firefox we've got for all intents and purposes now with microb (even including extensions - albeit with caveats); and it's only logical to assume that the Nokia plan is to drop Opera and ship microb as standard at some later point (maybe even the chinook-based IT OS 2008?).

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What I miss is a "real" mp3 player like XMMS. I dont like all the available ones at all with their GUIs.

I want a visible playlist and the time how long the title is running in one window. A simple visualisation, like in XMMS, in the same window would be nice too.

Holger

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I'm sorry, but I don't like UKMP (I do like Ugo though...), and I can't and won't use microb as long as it relies on the Firmware-From-Hell.

So there...

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Kilikali is pretty minimalist...

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Firmware-from-hell? OS2007 v4's the best IT OS release yet.

Agree on UKMP, though - not a fan of it myself. Canola 2 (IIRC) should allow use of mplayer, but for launching videos how good a UI do we need? (Stop/resume is essential, though).

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I'd really like Inkscape on my N800, but I think it's probably too big and the UI wouldn't really fit. I don't think it would be impossible, though, and I'd like to be able to do some scalable graphics sketching with a pen and a touch screen.

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Hmm Kilikali seems really minimalistic, maybe too :-). All players available are looking similar like Canola or UKMP...

Something like this with tabs would be a lot better:

http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/screenshots/00123_2.png

Next thing I miss is a C64 SID and AMIGA Mod player. I love all this retro stuff. For my Zaurus there was something available but this is cause of Qtopia unportable to the Nokia 770 or 800.

For playing around with programming would a basic port which should include some minialistic IDE interesting too (smallbasic).

Holger

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I'd be eternally grateful if you ported an HP 48 emulator to the N800. X48 would be the easier port, but if you could somehow manage Emu48, that would be beyond wonderful.

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Any software that destroys hardware needs to be shredded. Nokia should be fscking Al-Qaedaed for releasing this shite and subsequently burying its corporate head in the Sands of Denial.

mplayer's current UI is more than good enough for me. I really don't see the point in flashy UIs for video players. Like I'm going to watch the eyecandy and not the pr0n... :D

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Same remark as for a blingy video player UI: When I'm listening to music, I'm listening, not watching. I don't care about the UI, I just want something that makes it easy to select music, compose playlists and has big buttons for start, pauze and stop. No iPod imitations, nothing made to look like an art nouveau radio; heck, it can look like freaking Windows, for all I care.

Okay, that last one was over the top; I apologize.:rolleyes:

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There was a HP48SX emulator for the 770. I never could get it to work on the N800.

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Appl...772b565e05843c

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But didn't the "I eat babies^WSD-cards" bug also impact earlier firmware? Personally, I've no experience of it, but I got the impression from maemo-* that Nokia wanted to fix it if possible.

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I'm still waiting for an example. Sure, cards got corrupted ever since ITOS2005[*], but never beyond repair.
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[*] After all, that's what usually happens if you yank out a card without giving the system time to properly umount.

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Yes, usually. Those unusual times? The card dies. So long as you aren't stupid with the cards and you always give them enough time to unmount, you won't ever have a problem with the firmware eating cards whatsoever.

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1. Something akin to ListPro for PPC (http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/lp/listpro.php)
2. Perl
3. TV Guide applications (Loading web pages for this takes some time)
4. Calendar/ToDo/Contacts with sync capability (I believe this is being worked on for the GPE suite)
5. Larger board size for Four Rivers (i.e. tougher play ;) )
6. Auto play in AisleRiot (really hate having to tap every card to put them up when it's obvious that it's a winner) :rolleyes:

I have to say, though, that overall I'm very impressed with this machine, even with the level of functionality in the alpha/beta applications. :D

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As a long-time Zaurus user who's anxiously awaiting the arrivial of an n810, I'm really interested in seeing two applications ported to the Nokia platform:

• KDEPIMPI
  This is a calendar/to-do list/contact manager/password manager application with Linux & Windows desktop ports. It hasn't seen much development recently, but it's easy to use, has a tremendous range of features, and syncs easily. It builds with Qtopia or X11/Qt.
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/
• Zsafe
  This is a cross-platform password manager (Windows, Linux, embedded-Linux). It's got strong encryption and a well-designed GUI.
  http://z-soft.z-portal.info/zsafe/

While I'd be thrilled and extremely grateful to have either of these apps ported to the Nokia, I understand that there may not be much interest. On the other hand, setting up a packaged development environment with Qt, Qtopia, etc. (within scratchbox, within a VMplayer appliance image, or as native compilation tools on the Nokia), would go a huge way toward helping non-developers port more apps from the large collection that's been running on the Zaurus for years.

Thanks again for your offer!

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File management:
1)how about emelfm2 ? 2 swaping panes many buttons

2)open with dialog by default

Media
1)al mp3 players which is build for maemo have 1 problem
all of them cannot open/add dirs to playlist and that`s the only one problem in them for me

2)need upnp browser only browser which could give link to any app i want wget , mplayer or other

Networking
1)for smb networking http://pyneighborhood.sourceforge.net/
it needs smbclient smbmount
and it woud be nice have something similar for showmount&nfs

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It's funny you mention this. I was just thinking about the merits of a Commander-style file manager for the tablets. Does such a thing exist?

Rather than port emelfm2, which seems well-suited for a desktop, it might be better to write a finger-friendly version from scratch. Because of limited screen space (and the fact that it would be written from scratch), initial versions would probably only include the most commonly used features. What functionality would you think was important? I was thinking:

browse
jump-to folder
move
copy
delete
rename
create folder
open
sort (?)
restore (?)
set permission (?)
change owner (?)
search (?)

Options would include:
ask before overwrite
ask before delete

It would be interesting to design an interface for this. For example, a file/folder could be placed in a "trash" folder by sliding it off the side of the screen. The trash folder could be accessed by panning the screen to, for example, the left, thus making the left folder the right folder and the trash folder the left folder. Essentially, there would be a three-folder rotation with only two displayed at any time.

To manage single-folder tasks (such as set permission, change owner), it might make sense to hide the second folder, opening up a wider table view with permission and owner columns.

There would be no scroll bars. For finger-friendliness, the folder view would be similar to the mail folder view in Modest.

OK, I'm done brainstorming for now. :)

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FYI... emefm2 has already been ported. It is soooooo much better than the built in file manager. Get it here