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bayowar 2008-03-16 13:55

Photoshop Knock-off
 
This is the long(ish) backstory, scroll down for visuals.

I was fooling around yesterday with VNC. Connected with my N810
to my Desktop, fired up Photoshop, disabled all the unnecessary
panels & toolbars and just started drawing with pen and brush.

I dare anyone with a PS licence or Gimp to do the same. Even with
the small form factor of the tablet and the dodgy VNC speed it was
suprisingly fun to use. Mypaint later left me feeling unwanted with
it's early stages of hildonisation and the design in general (it's all
about the drawing/toolbars are for suckers). Please don't get me
wrong, I realize that it is a fundamentally different App with a different
goal, but it's the closest to a graphics editor on the tablet, as far
as I know.

Now, I know that no one will ever get a full GIMP or, God help us,
even Photoshop on a tablet in the near future, but I decided to
waste my precious semester break anyway and create a GUI mockup
of what I think would be a good theme for this sort of program.

This is a 3-hour Photoshop mockup with custom icons (and I suck at
those), it is really nothing more than a sketch.

http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/484...9742672_rs.jpg
Background is the picture to edit, obviously. Toolbars can be activated
by pressing one of the hardware buttons and disappear by default.

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/477...6872502_rs.jpg
Text tool in use.
Double tap any of the icons, and it'll show you a menu with options.

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/477...0510834_rs.jpg
Tapping the color selectors in the bottom left shows this color
wheel dialog.

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/494...3245314_rs.jpg
Another color dialog, could pull colors from any old color schemes
website, extract and display colors from the current image or show
your preference in colors. Or all of the above.

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/479...8281450_rs.jpg
Shows a smaller image with the pen tool (vector drawing) in action.
Also has labels, for the uninitiated ;)


The UI is designed for stylus use and tries to be unintrusive. I was
a bit inspired by Canola, too. The photos were taken from flickr, the
bird icon from (the wonderful) J3cons.


Is anyone intrigued by the concept and could help out with development?
I know there are apps that one could abuse for this purpose, like
Gimp or Krita, I just don't have the Know-How to pull it off.

iamthewalrus 2008-03-16 14:04

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Great concept. It looks very usable. Too bad we're forced to either use Hildon, or go the Canola way and create an application specific gui.

Jaffa 2008-03-16 14:09

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamthewalrus (Post 155905)
Great concept. It looks very usable. Too bad we're forced to either use Hildon, or go the Canola way and create an application specific gui.

*Forced* to use Hildon is a bit strong. I'm still strongly of the opinion it's the best Linux GUI for a mobile interface - it's just a long way short of the ideal mobile UI; whatever that is (not sure it exists TBH).

BillC 2008-03-16 14:17

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
I would guess you're familiar with the Wacom Cintiq products? These are tools for photographers, designers, etc to draw directly on an LCD using touch sensitive pens? If not, you should look into them if you like working this way. These are tablet PCs so not open source, they're big, bulky, etc. But as hardware gets faster, smaller this may approach Nokia Tablet size.

(FWIW, I've never uses the Cintiqs. I used to be a pro photog and used the Intuos tablets. Once you get used to it I prefered drawing on the desktop and looking at the monitor - that way my hand was never in the way of the picture :-) )

iamthewalrus 2008-03-16 14:19

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 155906)
*Forced* to use Hildon is a bit strong. I'm still strongly of the opinion it's the best Linux GUI for a mobile interface - it's just a long way short of the ideal mobile UI; whatever that is (not sure it exists TBH).

Sorry, I meant to say that the gui ideas here, like the semi transparent buttons/widgets are not possible with Hildon. Or am I mistaken?

Bundyo 2008-03-16 14:24

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Great concept... Maybe mtpaint is a good candidate for the task since it is fast and already supports alpha and pressure sensitivity? Gimp and Krita are out of the question - Gimp is too big and Krita is KDE/not mature. Mypaint seemed slow when i last tried it, maybe it is getting better?

Link to mtpaint:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17712

m_stolle 2008-03-16 14:30

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Hmm... Gimp used to work fine on My P-II 300MHz with 128MB of RAM... I don't think it's TOO far fetched to have it working on the Nokias.

Bundyo 2008-03-16 14:34

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
@m_stolle: Which year? Gimp is constantly developed you know. Of course i never tried to compile it for maemo, but i rather think it will not work good.

bayowar 2008-03-16 14:44

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
Thanks for the interest, everyone. Seems like this isn't too specific
after all ;)


Quote:

Great concept. It looks very usable. Too bad we're forced to either use Hildon, or go the Canola way and create an application specific gui.
I hadn't thought about Hildon too much. It shouldn't need to run in
windowed mode and the dialogs are largely custom, because of size
and such. I generally dislike custom approaches in linux (and windows)
apps, but in this case I would suggest to go down the same road
as Canola and leave hildon out of the equation.

Quote:

I would guess you're familiar with the Wacom Cintiq products?
Not with the particular brand, I've heard of and briefly tested a similar
LCD but as I hinted, I'm just doing this as a sideshow. Most of the
time I try to not fail college tests ;)

Quote:

Great concept... Maybe mtpaint is a good candidate for the task since it is fast and already supports alpha and pressure sensitivity?
Oh boy, I hadn't seen the latest progress of it. Certainly looks much
better than what I have on my tablet now. Thanks for the heads-up,
I'll take it for a spin tonight :)

unique311 2008-03-16 14:45

Re: Photoshop Knock-off
 
best, paint app for the tablet would be mypaint.
mtpaint is great, but the source is written in such a way that hildonizing it is a challenge that i failed at many of times.
mypaint might be easier to get hildon.
and it offers a gread deal of brushes...
and pressure sensitivity seems to work.

http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~mrenold/mypaint/
for those who want to compile and take a look at it.


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