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rpatrao 2008-06-13 11:22

Some questions about the n810
 
Hi,

I'm thinking about buying a n810, but I've got some questions about it.

I'm a (long time) Palm user (Zire 71) and use it mostly for reading eBooks and blogs posts converted with plucker.

I know that FBReader can read that sort of file, but I've tryied the windows version and to read pluckers files I nedd to import them to the library, which is a lot of work (more than 90 file per day, I know it's crazy... :eek: ) my question is, is there a way of loading the library automatically? when I delete a file from the library will it delete it fisically? Can FBReader open files from the card?

I could use an RSS reader, but I don't want to be connected to read.

I also have developed some programs for the Palm for my personal use, I know I can rewite them for the n810, but is there a library to do date aritmethics (ie, can I know the time elapsed between two dates), one of my program is for accounting my work time... the others are expenses trackers and loan calculation, which seems easy to be ported (need to refresh my c knowlege or python).

I also use an iPaq (h3850 - PPC 2002) for listening to podcast at work, I know that canola works. But does it plays from the card? I only nedd mp3 support.

Wich type of card does the n810 support? MiniSD?

Why do I focus mainly on the card? Because I have all the thing working on a linux box at work, and I don't have internet access at home (a decision), and every day I copy all the files to a card and use them with the Palm or the iPaq.

Is there an application for getting the data from the GPS (when it works)? Like speed, location so it can alert me to the speed alert or other POI... I do not need a navigation system.

Essencialy I want to subtitute this two devices by only one and the Nokia n810 seems a good substitute.

Thanks,

Rui Patrao

stevecrye 2008-06-14 05:10

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Hi;

I had my employer purchase my n810 2 weeks ago. I had been using a Zire.

The n810 is a linux computer in tiny form very powerful, but cannot match the zire as a PIM . Not instant on, search does not take you directly to the hit, other annoyances.

That being said, I have retired The zire. The n810 is on my belt in the zire case. No going back.

I dont use the GPS... I Have two Garmins; I suppose the n810 Gps is better than nothing.

I can't stress this point enough: The n810 is a real, fully funtional linux box. If You are willing to fully geek out, get it. If not, stay away.

I love almost everything about the N810. The keyboard is terrible, though.

I just discovered a new cool feature. The handwriting recognition has a way to save custom gestures. I can now draw a shape, and it will input my long, strange passwords!

Steve

Scarflash 2008-06-14 05:48

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
as stevecrye said, the n810 is very functional, but has it's downfalls. If you need the keyboard and gps, go with the n810. If you don't theres always the n800 for $200. If you really need the PIM though, I heard the garent vm has some of those kind of apps. check it out: http://www.internettablettalk.com/20...net-vm-beta-2/

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-14 06:02

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevecrye (Post 191940)
Not instant on . . .

You do realize the N810 is an alway-on machine, right? You're not supposed to turn it off (in fact, power cycling uses up about 2 days of battery life).

bunanson 2008-06-14 08:18

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarflash (Post 191949)
..theres always the n800 for $200. ...http://www.internettablettalk.com/20...net-vm-beta-2/

Not any more except ebay. I have been looking around for several weeks.

bun

PinCushionQueen 2008-06-14 13:57

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rpatrao (Post 191625)
Hi,

I'm thinking about buying a n810, but I've got some questions about it.

I'm a (long time) Palm user (Zire 71) and use it mostly for reading eBooks and blogs posts converted with plucker.

I know that FBReader can read that sort of file, but I've tryied the windows version and to read pluckers files I nedd to import them to the library, which is a lot of work (more than 90 file per day, I know it's crazy... :eek: ) my question is, is there a way of loading the library automatically? when I delete a file from the library will it delete it fisically? Can FBReader open files from the card?

I could use an RSS reader, but I don't want to be connected to read.

While I think it's possible to setup an automatic transfer of your Plucker files to the N810 SD card, you would still have to manually add them to FBReader's library - unless they were the same filenames that were just being overwritten each day (I've done this with some RSS feeds using Sunrise/Plucker for offline viewing. Yes FBReader can open files from the card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpatrao (Post 191625)
I also use an iPaq (h3850 - PPC 2002) for listening to podcast at work, I know that canola works. But does it plays from the card? I only nedd mp3 support.

Wich type of card does the n810 support? MiniSD?


Why do I focus mainly on the card? Because I have all the thing working on a linux box at work, and I don't have internet access at home (a decision), and every day I copy all the files to a card and use them with the Palm or the iPaq.

the N810 use a SD/SDHC Mini card or SD/SDHC micro with adapter. Most all of the apps are able to access files from a SD card, this includes all of the available music and video players.

The only thing that I know can't access the card is Garnet VM (a Palm emulator). GVM is the app that would allow you to continue to use those Palm apps that you had written without any need of porting them.

PAPPP 2008-06-14 17:43

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
For the RSS question, Its worth noting that the built in RSS reader works fine with an intermittent connection (although I do occasionally get crashes when interacting with it while refreshing...) . The default behavior is to refresh whenever it connects to a WLAN network, or every 30min while connected. I often read my feeds while waiting somewhere where there isn't a (free) network available, and just save (convenient little checkbox next to the post) the ones that I want to look into further for when there is a connection. I have very promiscuous network settings, and often find it's updated feeds and checked mail and the like on a random open AP while walking around.
As for getting information from the GPS, I've never tried exporting if that's the requirement, but Maemo Mapper does report speed, heading, etc., and has some system for importing POI in what looks like a reasonably standard way (haven't tried that feature yet)

krisse 2008-06-14 20:45

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevecrye (Post 191940)
I can't stress this point enough: The n810 is a real, fully funtional linux box. If You are willing to fully geek out, get it. If not, stay away.

I'm sorry, but I COMPLETELY disagree with that!

You do NOT need to "geek out" at all!

The N810's built-in apps are perfectly usable by ordinary people without any computing experience. In fact the tablets are far more user friendly for internet tasks than something like Windows Vista or OS X.

The browser works just like the browser on a PC, and the same is true of all the other major "consumer" features like Skype etc.

You CAN do geeky stuff if you want, but that's 100% optional. I personally never touch the geeky stuff, because I'm interested in this as a mainstream device.

I did an entire site of tablet tutorials for ordinary people precisely because it's much easier to use the tablets than a standard PC:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=9674


Quote:

Not instant on
As GeneralAntilles says, why would you want to switch it off?

Computers use the processor very intensely when booting up, far more intensely than just being in standby mode. It would be crazy to keep switching a battery-powered pocket device on and off all the time.

gemniii42 2008-06-14 21:44

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 191951)
You do realize the N810 is an alway-on machine, right? You're not supposed to turn it off (in fact, power cycling uses up about 2 days of battery life).

One of the things to remember is that WiFi and BT do seem to drain the battery. After I flashed my system with PB's excellent deb (may just be a coincidence) the battery life at home has dropped to less than a day with WiFi and BT on. With them off it still lasts several days.

bunanson 2008-06-14 22:19

Re: Some questions about the n810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 192126)
...After I flashed my system with PB's excellent deb (may just be a coincidence) the battery life at home has dropped to less than a day with WiFi and BT on...

You mind to just turn off the BT and leave the wifi on and see if there is ANY difference? Mine shows the BT stays on draws very little current. I do not know if the BT headphone or tether to cellphone etc being actively used continuously may make any difference. Just leave the BT on and doing some file txf on and off, does not seem to make a big impact on battery life. Wifi is the big battery killer.

bun


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