problem with missing toolchains
 

Hi;

I'm a noob when it come to maemo and scratchbox.

Having a problem with missing toolchains after installing the new scratchbox for Diablo. I'm using the Xubunto VM maemo-sdk-0.6.

The scratchbox installs OK, but when I try to install the SDK using the shell script, it complains about missing toolchains:

I can login to scratchbox OK and run the sb-menu.

I read more about scratchbox here:
http://scratchbox.org/documentation/...nstalldoc.html

There is a walk-through of the process for creating a new target. In that walk-through, after step 4, it says:

"We use "MYTARGET" as the target name in this example.
Next, the setup will ask which toolchain should be used to compile programs"

If I try those steps, it never prompts me to select a toolchain, but instead goes to the next screens for selecting devkits.

So, I'm baffled about how to get the toolchains installed.

Any suggestions most welcome.

Thanks,

Steve

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

Not sure - did you follow the "install" directions specifically for the maemo sdk? I just use the SDK vmware image so I don't have to mess with installing scratchbox :D

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

These were my steps (from the install.txt):
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.1/INSTALL.txt

download http://repository.maemo.org/stable/d...install_4.1.sh

Run:
sudo chmod a+x ./maemo-scratchbox-install_4.1.sh
sudo ./maemo-scratchbox-install_4.1.sh

Note you will need to specify users - this paragraph from install is a bit vague but describes it. See the scratchbox documentation. You will need to logout (I would suggest logging out of X) and login again for it to work after doing this. You may be able to do this after installling the rootstraps

download:
http://repository.maemo.org/stable/d...install_4.1.sh
(this installs the rootstrap toolchains)

Run: (you need the -y if you've already run this)
sh maemo-sdk-install_4.1.sh -y

In the above cases, tell it to install everything including any nokia binary-only packages and all the debug stuff. "Runtime Environment + All Dev and Dbg Packages."

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

Well, things are not any better. tz1, thanks for the tip about scratchbox users, but my attempt to apply that just hosed my vm. Mega, I'm going through all this because the vm is not equipped with the Diablo versions of scratchbox and SDK.

Here are the details of what I am doing - clearly I am thrashing around in the dark:

* Download the VM, extract, run it in either VMware workstation 6.x or VMware Player

* Bring up these links, follow instructions:
http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-4-1-diablo-sdk/
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.1/INSTALL.txt
From INSTALL.txt:
* The script will not run if the /scratchbox directory from the Chinook installtion is present, so I first delete that directory and all subs. After that, the script runs OK and reports success. I can even use scratchbox to compile and make the 'hello world' program, even without any toolchains.

tz1, you are correct that the part about adding users in vague! These instructions from the INSTALL.txt are very confusing:
Specify users to be added to scratchbox users with '-u USER'
option.

What command is used to specify '-u USER' ? Do they mean to feed that to the maemo-scratchbox-install_4.1.sh ??!? If so, I wish they had put that up higher in the instructions!

I looked at the script, and the Options section says that -u will accept a comma-separated list of users.

But, now that scratchbox has already been installed, I can't just run it again with -u maemo', so I delete /scratchbox and start again, this time with the 'u maemo option <grrrrr>

But, now the script fails, with:
Arrgh!
so, I run as root.

It removes a bunch of stuff - but things are just getting worse. I'm presented with windows asking me to pick dictionaries to remove, and lots of frightening stuff scrolls by. When it is all over, and I try the scratchbox script again, it will not run at all - page afer page of alarming errors such as:
It seems that my networking on the vm is now totally hosed. eth0 will not start. ifconfig shows only lo.

I'm going to re-install the downloaded VM and try again.
<sigh>

Steve

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

stevecrye: I am running the VMWare image and using chinook and diablo SDKs in scratchbox. Here is what I did:

First, upgraded xubuntu to Hardy (just a personal choice, but it did present a small issue that is solved later on, read the following link). I also got rid of the 'user' user and added my own (again, just a personal choice).

Second, followed these instructions to install the diablo sdk: http://linuxuk.org/node/38. I used the scratchbox install that came with the VMWare image (although I think I updated the debs when upgrading to hardy).

Now I have my personal user as the Xubuntu user, and I added that user as the scratchbox user as well (that is covered in the article linked). I can develop for chinook and diablo quite easily. I did have to recompile open-vm-tools (http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/)for the newer hardy kernel before things like network, clipboard, and auto-resizing would work.

Hope this helps!

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

Man, I must be missing something obvious that perhaps is not in the instructions or will not work in this VM - something that everyone assumes a developer will know to do but I don't because I'm such a noob. I sense I am very close to getting it to work - the problem will turn out to be something trivial.

I'm working with the scripts and instructions found here:
http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/

I'm trying yet again from yet again a fresh download of the VM... this will be my 5th attempt in 3 days.

Questions and results of latest attempt:

* Can't I just use user 'maemo' as both the scratchbox user and the default user of the Xubunto vm? Must I create a new user? I'm not going to use this VM for anything else, and I want to keeps things as simple as possible.

* Did you have to delete /scratchbox before running
?

Because if I don't, I get this error:
So, I then delete /scratchbox and all subs, and try again. This time, as in previous attempts, it finishes OK. It downloads tons of stuff, everything looks beautiful. The process is unattended and I am not prompted to answer any questions.

I then try - yet again:
It says that user maemo is already a user. Ok, fine. I exit root, exit the terminal, bring up a new terminal. I then try:
Now What?!?

So, I try the slightly different instructions provided by your link:

Hmmm....

Well, lets see if the SDK will install:

Starting the service did not help:
Out of desperation I reboot. Things are a little better:

So, perhaps now the SDK will install?

Nope. I'm back to the same place I was 3 days and 8 man-hours ago. On the pre-installed Chinook version that comes with the VM, there is a directory called /scratchbox/device-tools that is missing after I run the Diablo scratchbox install.

It never takes me to the screens that are listed in section 3.3.4 of http://maemo.org/maemo_release_docum...1.x/node4.html

I'm not certain if this is a clue, because it happens in the unmodified VM also:
More puzzled than ever. I'm looking at the manual steps for installing the SDK.

Steve

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

News Flash! Victory! I knew it would be something silly.

I started over with the fresh VM. This time, instead of deleting the exisiting /scratchbox, I instead stopped the scratchbox service, and then installed to a fresh path /d-s/scratchbox, using the -s PATH option. I also used the -u USER option, specifying user maemo.

Next, I ran the SDK script, but used -s PATH to specify my 'special' path. All the expected interaction screens were there! It is downloading everything as I type this.

Happy, Happy Joy Joy!

Steve

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

Diablo SDK installed and working! GUI 'Hello World' compiled and running.

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/11822287.jpg

Well, now the fun really starts ... trying to get Kismet working properly under Diablo, with the n810 drivers, correctly displaying signal strength, 'r' option working, able to capture packets without stalling after a while ..

Wish me luck!

Steve

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

I noticed you didn't say you logged out and logged back in after doing the -user, though it probably worked to set the value, but sometime in this process you did and it took. Also if you are using 8.04 (heron) derived xubuntu, there is a note in the INSTALL.txt. You do need to read the whole thing - the manual/automatic stuff is interleaved so you can't always find it easily.

Re: problem with missing toolchains
 

Would not rebooting the Xubunto machine 'log me out'? I am confused about this. It is true that I never typed "logout" from the terminal - I just exited my session and launched terminal again.

However, I *think* the trick was some combo of:
- picking a new install path
- shutting down the scratchbox server during the install
- running the scratchbox script with -u USER the first time through.

When I have time, I'll try it again with a fresh VM and see if I can get it to install to the default path.

Thanks again to all for suggestions, and putting up with my lengthy hollering for help!

Steve