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[Debian] Keblet - KDE 3.5.9 (and 4.1.0) on Deblet

Ok, sorry about the topic.. I couldn't resist. (for those that don't know - (almost) every app in KDE starts with K).

So... You downloaded and installed Deblet (you know.. that totally awesome debian for your tablet?) and you saw the great post made by b-man and your first thought was "Gosh.. that's cool and all... but I want my KDE!:(".

Well.. here you go (I assume you are root for all commands listed):

KDE 3.5.9 Installation

Are you someone who wants stuff to just work ??? Don't want to deal with bugs or quirks and report them to the developer(s)? Then normally KDE 3.5.9 would be for you. It is the 'stable' KDE version. Unfortunately; and I will warn you now - KDE was not designed for a screen this small..and this really gets in the way. But that won't stop you now, will it?;)

First things first...we need to prepare our debian's apt for getting KDE.. so the file you want to edit (use your faorite editor; vim, nano, emacs, whatever) is /etc/apt/sources.list. If you accepted all the defaults during Deblet's installation (or you don't know what SID is..) then you have lenny - and you MAY be good to go... but check anyway:

Lenny

Code:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free

SID -for those that enjoy the unknown...

Code:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

Now that apt has some new repositories to get all our goodies from...

Code:

apt-get update

Woohoo! More programs! Ok.. moving on:

For BIG KDE

Code:

apt-get install kdebase kdm kde-core kdebase-doc-html gdb mtools djvulibre-bin perl-suid smbclient kicker-applets konq-plugins kate-plugins ntpdate kdepim-kresources unrar smbfs kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing wlassistant

Wow that was long, eh? Yeah... kde in debian doesn't have an 'easy' all-in-one package like gnome.. But kdebase does get most of it... I just added missing pieces. This will take approximately 409 MB of space. This will also install Samba for you; and it will ask (during installation) for a SAMBA config like WORKGROUP, and whether you want samba to pull WINS information from DHCP... this is windows stuff; if you don't know what it is - accept defaults.. if you do; you'll know what you need to answer :).

For baby KDE

Code:

apt-get install kde-core kdm

Whew.... that was easier.. and will only take a whopping 216MB (or so) of space! Of course the downside... the easy network tools didn't load for these - so network setup will be more difficult.

Now we wait.... When it is done you may see an error while installing a package called 'fam'. If so this is fine.. the start/stop daemon didn't work because the system isn't fully booted. Before we fix this we need to first fix KDM so those without a keyboard can see their desktop!

The file we are looking for is:
/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc

Now this file is HUGE... therefore I won't cause an already insane post to be longer... these are JUST the changes:

Code:

AutoReLogin=true

....

AllowShutdown=All

...

AutoLoginEnable=true

AutoLoginUser=user

...

ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br -mouse tslib -nozap -dpi 96 -wr -nolisten tcp

Note: Changes are bolded. All these options are IN THE FILE ALREADY... you do not need to add any of them.. just find them and change them. Replace the "user" with the name of your Deblet user. Remove any # signs at the beginning of the line of these values.

Reboot your tablet and you should get directly into KDE - you will know because KDE launches a 'Setup Wizard' (n800 users see the big red note on the bottom)

Now once you are fully booted you need to open a 'Konsole" window and run the command:

Code:

apt-get install fam

This will finalize the installation of that package now that /dev/pts is available. (you won't get this error if you used qole's Debian Chroot to initially get to your debian in maemo; because he mounts the /dev/ devices for you.)

And thats it for KDE 3.5.9 .... Enjoy.

Warning N800 users: Even tho we bypassed the kdm login.. KDE still launches a "Setup Wizard" the first time a user logs into kde. You can click the X to close it.

KDE 4.1.0 Installation

First.. let me make this clear... I recommend you do not install KDE 4.1.0 on your tablet. It is slow, bulky and just a pain to use. It took me 3-5 minutes to launch the built-in file manager Dolphin.. and unlike OpenOffice that works once it's loaded; it still took half a minute just to click on anything inside the dolphin. It's just slow. BUT - If you must.. then you will be needing My Apt Repository. You will also need to add the experimental repository to /etc/apt/sources.list

Code:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian experimental main non-free contrib

Once that is added it should be as simple as

Code:

apt-get install kde4-minimal

Your kde4 file to edit will be in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc I believe and the options will be the same as above. Other kde4 optional packages are:

Code:

apt-get install kdeadmin kdemultimedia kdetoys kdeutils

So How is it?

Ok; I was a little harsh on KDE and I'm starting to warm up to it now that I am going through all the threads here

Qole thought Gnome's Dialogs were bad? AT LEAST screen rotation woks right. I have attached a screenshot of the screwup KDE does. The task bar; if left on the bottom covers half the screen. So you have to put the bar on either side or the top. AND to top it off the wallpaper doesn't rotate with you!!!

Now.. none of the screens in KDE fit our tiny tablet either - but a nifty trick in KDE is if you hold down the Menu key (the top one on the left side of the screen on an n810) while dragging a window - it will move the whole window... this allows you to view the entire configuration screens without messing with rotation.

Also.... if you haven't been following along then you may have missed the cool trick about GTK... add the following to your /home/user/.xsessionrc file and right click will work for GTK applications.

Code:

export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so

And make sure it is installed:

Code:

apt-get install libgtkstylus

Now.. Gnome is entirely built on Gtk; so this hack effectively enables right click for all normal Gnome apps;and many third party GTK apps... BUT...KDE is based on QT... and I have not yet found a hack like this for QT; which essentially means that none of the KDE apps have a right click. (however; GTK apps like epiphany will still work).

On the other hand.. Penguinbait - being the awesome dude he is has provided a script that should hopefully allow right clicking in KDE.. I have yet to try it and will update when I do. While I still prefer not to have to click a button to change my mouse every time; at least the functionality exists.. so I'll be happy with what I can get.

I still get very annoyed that the wallpaper does not resize when you rotate.. half your screen is just empty space; it's usable - but no wallpaper is on it. I have pm'd penguinbait to see if he has made any other changes to his KDE version on Maemo.. My ultimate goal is to help you setup Debian's KDE to function pretty much exactly like Maemo's KDE.. that way you can have KDE on both; with no learning curve!

Special Thanks: The entire Deblet Team for their awesome work on the Debian OS side of the house. B-man for the motivation to do this. Qole for his input and knowledge; and Bensen and Qole for their chroot scripts and environment. Also Penguinbait for the easy to use DEB's on dual booting and cloning; and all of the KDE work he is doing. And you.. for reading this ridiculously long message :D.