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pataphysician 2008-08-29 15:30

Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
I have been pretty happy with Diablo especially after the update, because I have gotten really really good battery life. But recently I started using a 4GB ADATA SDHC card, class 6, and my battery life seemed to be hit.

I did a series of tests using the battery-status program and several SD cards. The other cards I have are 2 Sandisk 1GB, 2 Sandisk 2GB, 2 Patriot 8GB, 1 PNY 512MB, 1 Nokia 256MB. I tested my n800 with no cards first and the battery drain on idle was .4% per half hour, when testing all the other cards in the same manner, they all came in at .4% per half hour as well, so no additional battery drain. But the Adata card comes in at 1.6% per half hour of idle, or four times the amount of battery drain over the other cards. This is even after reformatting it, once as fat32, once as ext2, no change. The card functions fine in every other way and I get no errors on running checks.

Does anyone else have Adata cards? they might want to compare their battery drain on idle to the NIT with no cards using the battery-status app.

bluesubaru 2008-08-29 16:06

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
I have an A-data card. What is your method for figuring the rate per 1/2 hour. I will give it a test.

gemniii42 2008-08-29 17:33

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Good info,
so we know that the Patriot 8gb micro's are flaky and the 4GB ADATA SDHC card suck power.

DJArty 2008-08-29 18:14

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Look at Bugtrack https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204#c75 (comment 75 from Nokiaman)
Quote:

For example Transcend 8GB card requests much more power than e.g.
Kingston 8GB card (200mA vs. 25mA i.e. ~8x more, but due to steps specified
in the SD spec, in reality it could be only ~4x times more). Don't know
whether this is related to bug here though, both memory card slots
should (naturally) provide the maximum amount of power required
by the cards.
And I'm look in to Transcend SDHC card specs:
Quote:

• Current Consumption
The current consumption is measured by averaging over 1 second.
‧ Before first command: Maximum 15 mA
‧ During initialization: Maximum 100 mA
‧ Operation in Default Mode: Maximum 100 mA
‧ Operation in High Speed Mode: Maximum 200 mA
‧ Operation with other functions: Maximum 500 mA.
500 mA!! Splendidly! :)
Thus, not every card is intended for a IT...

pataphysician 2008-08-29 18:16

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Thanks bluesubaru

First you need to install the battery-status application

here's the download link
http://nitapps.com/dists/chinook/use....0-2.armel.deb

After this is installed you can open up the terminal application and type

battery-status -d 30

and then press the enter key.

This will create an entry in the terminal screen with the time and percentage left every half hour, I let mine run for two hours, to make sure it was consistent.

First I did this with no cards in either the internal or external SD slots, and I also was not using Virtual Memory either. This was to establish a baseline. Then I ran the test with each of my different cards in the external slot. I also did a test with each in the internal, but you probably don't need to do the internal slot test, I was just seeing if there was any difference, and there wasn't.

pataphysician 2008-08-29 18:28

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 219012)
Good info,
so we know that the Patriot 8gb micro's are flaky and the 4GB ADATA SDHC card suck power.

What's flaky about the Patriot 8GB?

pataphysician 2008-08-29 18:56

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJArty (Post 219036)
Look at Bugtrack https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204#c75 (comment 75 from Nokiaman)

And I'm look in to Transcend SDHC card specs:

500 mA!! Splendidly! :)
Thus, not every card is intended for a IT...

Thanks for that info. Adata doesn't seem to have power specs on it's cards, but they do say it supports SDA 2.0 and all power modes, which should include standby and sleep. The tests I'm running are with the NIT essentially idle, so the cards should be in either standby or sleep mode which I thought was supposed to be power in the microamps range, not even milliamps, so there should be no discernible power loss. My guess is that maybe the adata cards aren't entering this mode for some reason?

danramos 2008-08-29 19:10

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Just throwing my 2 cents in, I had two A-data 8GB SDHC cards and they both went from flaky to dying. My opinion is that I would avoid them, given my experience.

khalid 2008-08-29 21:32

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 219082)
Just throwing my 2 cents in, I had two A-data 8GB SDHC cards and they both went from flaky to dying. My opinion is that I would avoid them, given my experience.

My A-Data 8GB SDHC is still working well after 6 months. Sounds like I need to keep an eye on it.

XTC 2008-08-29 21:58

Re: Adata SD card uses extra battery power
 
I have 4GB AData sdhc micro.
Didn't notice any visible performance drop, I'll give this battery monitor a try.
Cards like any other memories - there are better and worse.
Unfortunately It's not possible to draw any conclusion if there are differences like - this has lower X-current, but that does this X-thing faster and so on.


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