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jiiv 2008-09-08 21:07

[Debian] LXDE observations (and a question)
 
I've been playing around with LXDE on the n810 and it's a pretty nice little environment- I think it's a bit lighter than xfce, but looks much more polished and featureful. It doesn't seem quite as quick as Icewm, but it's pretty close and does much more. Everything looks very slick and polished, not 'hacked together' like a lot of the lighter desktop environments. I think it's definitely worth checking out.

I do have a quick question though for the lxde users here: where can we stick a script to run stuff on startup (xmodmap, xbindkeys, etc)? I've done a bit of looking around, and supposedly making an autostart.sh in ~/.config/openbox or modifying ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart should do stuff, but I'm having no luck at all. If no one knows I'll dig some more and/or post somewhere lxde-specific, but I figured one of us who's been playing with it might have come across something already.
Thanks much.

qole 2008-09-08 23:42

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
I'll be watching this thread; I want a WM for my Easy Debian Final that is both fast (faster than xfce4) and not so stripped-bare like IceWM. fvwm2 is (supposedly) configurable, but I don't know how to configure it, and like so many of the light WMs, there's no nice configuration GUI.

fatalsaint 2008-09-09 03:48

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
Dude.. LXDE is awesome....

I am totally hooked. But it doesn't look like you are getting away from config files qole.

I'll look into the startup thing.

jiiv 2008-09-09 15:03

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
It really is impressive. I used Icewm years and years ago on a little Ipaq, and it _is_ very fast, but it's really far too minimal for most users I think. I love it on the NIT (and FYI the Infadel2 theme looks beautiful on the Nokia), but then I haven't run a full 'desktop environment' (k/gnome/etc) for years. The tablets, in my opinion, require a bit more friendliness than a real desktop though- you don't have the advantage of a real keyboard and mouse, so having extravagant features like desktop icons are really pretty nice :) Fluxbox is my preferred window manager on a desktop, but without actual mouse buttons it just isn't practical.
LXDE does seem like the best tradeoff between performance and function. I believe that openbox is marginally heavier than Icewm (though I could be mistaken, I haven't done any real testing between the two), but they really are modular; it wouldn't be too hard to 'downgrade' back to Icewm and still keep the other goodies from LXDE.

fatalsaint 2008-09-09 15:05

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
Oh ignore my post on config files.. I just noticed if you have right click available you can configure your panels and stuff that way...

I did it through config files :D

qole 2008-09-09 16:45

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
Will it use our GTK+ tap-and-hold right-click hack? Or do we have to use another hack for right-click?

EDIT: YES, the web page says it is GTK+ based! That's MARVELOUS!

fatalsaint 2008-09-09 17:28

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
GTK works fine. I didn't have libgtkstylus on my new one so it wasn't working for me and I thought it had to be config files... once I loaded the module it works now..

debernardis 2008-09-09 17:59

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
Houston, we have a problem...
How comes that lxde wants to install an insane number of packages on my rootfs?
Code:

[root@Debian: /]apt-get install lxde
Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti verranno inoltre installati:
  arj console-common console-data gdm gdm-themes gpicview gtk2-engines hal
  hal-info kbd leafpad libdmx1 libgl1-mesa-dri libobparser21 libobrender21
  lxappearance lxde-common lxde-core lxde-settings-daemon lxpanel lxsession-lite
  openbox openbox-themes p7zip-full pcmanfm pm-utils powermgmt-base radeontool
  usbutils xarchiver xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all
  xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
  xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-glint
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
  xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
  xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
  xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo zenity zip
Pacchetti suggeriti:
  unicode-data uswsusp gnome-device-manager evince-gtk libglide3 lxlauncher
  lxpanel-netstat-plugin obconf libxml2-dev p7zip-rar cpufrequtils gsynaptics
  ksynaptics qsynaptics wacom-tools
Pacchetti raccomandati:
  vbetool
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI (NEW) saranno installati:
  arj console-common console-data gdm gdm-themes gpicview gtk2-engines hal
  hal-info kbd leafpad libdmx1 libgl1-mesa-dri libobparser21 libobrender21
  lxappearance lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxde-settings-daemon lxpanel
  lxsession-lite openbox openbox-themes p7zip-full pcmanfm pm-utils powermgmt-base
  radeontool usbutils xarchiver xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
  xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd
  xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
  xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
  xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
  xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
  xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740
  xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
  xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
  xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
  xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
  xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo zenity zip
0 aggiornati, 77 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 6 non aggiornati.
� necessario prendere 39,6MB di archivi.
Dopo quest'operazione, verranno occupati 106MB di spazio su disco.
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fatalsaint 2008-09-09 18:09

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
try apt-get install xserver-xomap xservery-xephyr lxde

See if by forcing the right xserver packages it doesn't go for xorg? Didn't have this problem on Deblet.

debernardis 2008-09-09 18:19

Re: LXDE observations (and a question)
 
Nope, still wants to download the whole xorg cyclopedia. Don't worry, I'll try dpkg - or, indeed, I can live without it.


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