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mrojas 2009-08-08 00:29

OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
I know that they are differences between the x86 architecture (CISC) and the ARM Cortex A8 (RISC) inside the OMAP that the next tablet will use.

However, now that there is a lot of talk about ARM netbooks and stuff like that, I was wondering what would be the rough equivalence between both platforms. For example, for generic office apps (let's say, calculations in a big spreadsheet), OMAP 3 is equivalent to an Atom processor? A Core Solo?

Any idea/info about that would be welcome.

ioioio 2009-08-08 01:03

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
I have found no MIPS or FLOPS information regarding the OMAP. If you can find it, you can do some comparison to a x86 processor.

mrojas 2009-08-08 01:06

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioioio (Post 309730)
I have found no MIPS or FLOPS information regarding the OMAP. If you can find it, you can do some comparison to a x86 processor.

I couldn't find any info either, that is why I am asking for some help :(

I found some saying that the Atom is roughly equivalent to the original Pentium 4, and then another saying that OMAP 3 is similar to the Atom, but those were comments in blog posts, so the info doesn't serve me well.

attila77 2009-08-08 06:06

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioioio (Post 309730)
I have found no MIPS or FLOPS information regarding the OMAP. If you can find it, you can do some comparison to a x86 processor.

It's RISC vs CISC, so MIPS would translate to Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed real quick :D FWIW they do about 2 DMIPS/MHz and FLOPS is not applicable as our OMAP3-s are FPU-less,

Thesandlord 2009-08-08 06:42

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 309774)
It's RISC vs CISC, so MIPS would translate to Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed real quick :D FWIW they do about 2 DMIPS/MHz and FLOPS is not applicable as our OMAP3-s are FPU-less,

Lol, sounds like Dr. Seuss to me. ;)

I think this is a valid question. Someone load ubuntu onto a beagleboard and various x86 chips, and start benchmarking. Please.


See, I asked nicely.

derhorst 2009-08-08 07:56

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
The Cortex A8 performance is about equal to Atom and Pentium 3 at the same clock speed except floating point, which is much less powerful on Cortex. NEON optimizations might help a bit, though. Memory throughput is very high on OMAP3 especially compared to OMAP2.

Quote:

I think this is a valid question. Someone load ubuntu onto a beagleboard and various x86 chips, and start benchmarking. Please.
There are Bytemark results on the web, that can be compared. For OMAP3-CortexA8 search the Open Pandora board(gp32x.com).

lardman 2009-08-08 09:31

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Here are the benchmarks for the OMAP1 and 2, plus some other mobile processors: http://wiki.hbmobile.org/index.php?t...sor_Benchmarks

Here are the benchmarks for the Pandora (OMAP3): http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php...temark__st__30

In fact read that whole last thread as some tweaks are made to try to improved the Pandora results.

I don't have nbench comparison results for a PC (but anyone can just compile that and try of course) but do have some dhrystone and whetstone results comparison if that's of interest: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/benchmarks/

Lord Raiden 2009-08-08 11:20

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
lol. Honestly, all I care is Omap3 >>>>>>>>> Omap2, which means that the next tablet will be a butt kicking wonder. :D

jkridner 2009-08-10 23:01

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 309774)
... and FLOPS is not applicable as our OMAP3-s are FPU-less,

This is not true. There is an FPU on the OMAP3. It is optimized for single precision vectorized floating point operations.

javispedro 2009-08-11 00:49

Re: OMAP3 roughly equivalent in x86?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jkridner (Post 310628)
This is not true. There is an FPU on the OMAP3. It is optimized for single precision vectorized floating point operations.

You mean NEON?
There's still vfp, is it? At least I remember the fremantle gcc generating code for vfp by default.


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