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johnkzin 2009-09-07 22:31

Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Didn't see this article anywhere else on the site yet, so I thought I'd post it.

Nokia to Reserve Maemo for High End Devices

(sort of implies to me that S60 will replace S40 (as Nokia's low end phone OS), and Maemo will replace S60 (as Nokia's high end phone OS))

nowave7 2009-09-07 22:47

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with smartphones. I believe these are still going to be quite rare in the future, though not as rare as they were, but still not that mainstream as the rest of the N series phones.

johnkzin 2009-09-08 00:12

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nowave7 (Post 323418)
But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with smartphones

Except of course that the example they gave is, in fact, a smartphone (the N900).

GeneralAntilles 2009-09-08 00:17

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 323444)
Except of course that the example they gave is, in fact, a smartphone (the N900).

According to whom? Nokia describes it as a "mobile computer".

johnkzin 2009-09-08 00:29

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 323445)
According to whom? Nokia describes it as a "mobile computer".

From the linked article:

"According to statements made by Jonas Geust, vice president, Nokia N-series players, Nokia plans to use its Linux-based Maemo mobile operating system only on high-end mobile internet devices, such as the N900."

GeneralAntilles 2009-09-08 00:32

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 323453)
"According to statements made by Jonas Geust, vice president, Nokia N-series players, Nokia plans to use its Linux-based Maemo mobile operating system only on high-end mobile internet devices, such as the N900."

I don't see "smartphone" in there.

johnkzin 2009-09-08 00:55

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 323456)
I don't see "smartphone" in there.

In what way is the N900 _NOT_ a smartphone?

And, from wikipedia:

Quote:

A smartphone is a mobile phone offering advanced capabilities, often with PC-like functionality (PC-mobile handset convergence). There is no industry standard definition of a smartphone. For some, a smartphone is a phone that runs complete operating system software providing a standardized interface and platform for application developers. For others, a smartphone is simply a phone with advanced features like e-mail, Internet and e-book reader capabilities, and/or a built-in full keyboard or external USB keyboard and VGA connector. In other words, it is a miniature computer that has phone capability.
Except for the VGA connector (which, for all we know, the N900's video out is VGA compatible), the N900 would seem to fit both example definitions. So I have no problem at all putting it into the smartphone category.

All of which is pedantry, since the article itself says nothing at all about smartphones, that was just nowave7 and I discussing the issue. He could just have easily have said:

Quote:

But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with WHATZIFUTS
and my reply would still have been to the effect that the example that the article gives for that category is an N900.

So, how about replying to the intent of the statements, instead of being pedantic about words that have no precise definition in the first place.

ARJWright 2009-09-08 01:33

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Nokia doesn't yet consider the N900 a smarpthone, that said, ti does consider it a mobile internete device (MID), and per how they have been marketing N-Series devices over the past years, one could mix the two up pretty easily.

You want definitions of a smartphone (past and present), this piece I did pretty much nails it (Gartner and a few others have weirder approaches to this definition IMO):

Old Definition
Quote:

Smartphone are cellular-based mobile devices which utilize an operating system that allows for the addition of natively-written third-party applications and are created on a PC-like architecture
New Definition
Quote:

Smartphones are mobile devices which utilize cellular and wireless software to enhance the user experience of mobile-enabled services by connecting to those services by direct ties into the operating system and hardware of the mobile device.
The N900 fits clearer under the latter than the former due to Nokia's current positioning of itself with Ovi and other web service endeavors. But its all semantics and marketing to be honest; and the N900 isn't designed so much to be a smarter phone, as its designed to be a smarter approach to mobile (data) computing.

Texrat 2009-09-08 01:49

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
This isn't mere semantics either, johnkzin. While there may some fuzziness in the industry about what a smartphone is or is not, Nokia is very careful in defining product types (to a fault I can assure you as one who used to support demand/supply networks) so it would be a mistake to see the word "smartphone" in a description of Maemo devices. If it's not there specifically, it's not intended to be.

johnkzin 2009-09-08 02:04

Re: Nokia to Reserve Maemo for "High End Devices"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 323487)
This isn't mere semantics either, johnkzin. While there may some fuzziness in the industry about what a smartphone is or is not, Nokia is very careful in defining product types (to a fault I can assure you as one who used to support demand/supply networks) so it would be a mistake to see the word "smartphone" in a description of Maemo devices. If it's not there specifically, it's not intended to be.

It wasn't a statement, one way or the other, from nokia about smartphones. It was a generalized comment made in the discussion thread here. It _was_ just a matter of pendantry to quibble over it.


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