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ioioio 2009-09-25 02:41

Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
http://gigaom.com/2009/09/24/iphone-...y-the-numbers/

Time waster thread of the day, I guess.

mrojas 2009-09-25 02:45

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Ah, statistics.

If I eat two roast beefs, and you eat none, according to statistics, each one of us ate one. The magic of numbers.

Texrat 2009-09-25 04:09

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 333339)
Ah, statistics.

If I eat two roast beefs, and you eat none, according to statistics, each one of us ate one. The magic of numbers.

Heh-- I know you're being facetious, or at least I hope you are, because that's a well known statistical farce. The implication is correlation where none truly exists. But yeah, still funny in an antipedantic way. :D

Oh, and that chart is misleading: the decline is in units sold, not market share. tsk tsk.

Soulfarmer 2009-09-25 04:15

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 333362)
Oh, and that chart is misleading: the decline is in units sold, not market share. tsk tsk.

Staring purely on percentages on that chart is useless anyway. Lets see how Apple sells when it has as many models on the market as Nokia has now....

icebox 2009-09-25 05:43

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
I have started a small blog. Analytics sees about 600% increase in visitors because it went from 1-2 per day to about 7-8 per day. I bet cnn.com should be threatened because my market share increases much faster than their ...

Soulfarmer 2009-09-25 05:51

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icebox (Post 333377)
I have started a small blog. Analytics sees about 600% increase in visitors because it went from 1-2 per day to about 7-8 per day. I bet cnn.com should be threatened because my market share increases much faster than their ...

Based on your statement, your market share isn't actually increasing all that fast. Your visitor count increased percentage-wise a great deal.

Same thing with Nokia sold units vs. Apple sold units. Even if either one sold 1 billion units, they would never reach 100% market share (with that amount, would be darn close tho :))

People stare too much on percentages, that's what I think.

I could be gravely mistaken, but am I?

R-R 2009-09-25 05:53

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
The problem is not with the smaller player growing but with the big ones moving up or down by a lot!

Soulfarmer 2009-09-25 05:55

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R-R (Post 333381)
The problem is not with the smaller player growing but with the big ones moving up or down by a lot!

Now that makes lot more sense already. And without any numbers :)

mrojas 2009-09-25 06:15

Re: Nokia’s Troubles By The Numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 333362)
Heh-- I know you're being facetious, or at least I hope you are, because that's a well known statistical farce. The implication is correlation where none truly exists. But yeah, still funny in an antipedantic way. :D

Oh, and that chart is misleading: the decline is in units sold, not market share. tsk tsk.

The Force is strong with this one. :D

vvaz 2009-09-25 07:39

Re: Nokia?s Troubles By The Numbers
 
This table is so wrong on so many accounts, I will try to cover most important.

1. In 2q08 iPhone sales flatlined completely. Some even predicted end of iPhone but it was everyone waiting for second generation. Also after that quarter Apple product became officially available globally. This sales jump came in most part from international sales. And this also explains why Nokia is lukewarm about US - it is global game. Success at all costs in US isn't so impotrant like still US-centered internet likes to think.
2. How 'smartphones' are counted? With width and breadth of Nokia's offering isn't it possible that middle level phones are becoming 'good enough' to replace previous top of the line (especially in times of crisis)?


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