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cha 2009-10-18 08:42

N800 X-Terminal
 
Ok, Got one of those stupid Questions..
ON the Nokia N800, the lastest Diablo Update. There is a program called X-Terminal with a Money sign for the Program Icon. What is X-Terminal and what do you do with it????? Thanks for the Help! :D

Addison 2009-10-18 08:49

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
It lets you type in command lines.

It's not very newbie friendly, so for now, stay away from it. :)

cha 2009-10-18 21:25

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
So, how does someone learn, just staying away dont tell me much??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 350179)
It lets you type in command lines.

It's not very newbie friendly, so for now, stay away from it. :)


richie 2009-10-18 21:42

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
Do a google search for Linux terminal bash commands, there is plenty of info online about Linux desktops that in the applies to x-term on the N800. To get you started,

ls -l

lists files and directory in the current directory

cd /home/user

changes directory to /home/user

Most commands have a arguments, that you can get a list of by typing [command] --help so for example

ls --help

lists all the arguments for the list files command.

Cheers
Rich

scaler 2009-12-06 20:30

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cha (Post 350177)
Ok, Got one of those stupid Questions..
ON the Nokia N800, the lastest Diablo Update. There is a program called X-Terminal with a Money sign for the Program Icon. What is X-Terminal and what do you do with it????? Thanks for the Help! :D

Have you used the backup app and transferred the backup to a PC hard drive? Have you transferred files from your PC to the Tablet? Have you used the flasher to reflash the firmware? These are all procedures you should get used to before using X-Terminal.

Why? Because you can make your N800 totally inoperable by a single typo in X-terminal, and you need to know how to get it working again.

GeraldKo 2009-12-06 21:51

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
On this forum you will come across instances where you will need Xterm, but you will be told the commands you need in the post. Very useful. For example, to replace the standard "hosts file" with one that blocks ads. After a while, you will begin to understand Xterm better, and then you may start to "play" with it.

Good luck!

YoDude 2009-12-06 22:08

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
EDIT: I had to add the quote from the post I was referring to because GeraldKo snuck in there and basically said what I was trying to say... but with a lot less words. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaler (Post 413335)
Have you used the backup app and transferred the backup to a PC hard drive? Have you transferred files from your PC to the Tablet? Have you used the flasher to reflash the firmware? These are all procedures you should get used to before using X-Terminal.

Why? Because you can make your N800 totally inoperable by a single typo in X-terminal, and you need to know how to get it working again.

On the other hand you can download Pipeline's port of emelfm2 >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=18462

And visually see these files and folders everyone is concerned about. I was not a Linux user when I started but Xterm opened my eyes to what could be accomplished with the tablet.
Simply adding a "chrome" directory and "UserContent.css" file has enhanced the browser for instance >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=24752

Quote:

I never expected my tablets 4.1" screen to provide the same user experience as my desktop. I found that most of what I needed from the net when I was away from a man sized computer was being served formatted for mobile devices.

Using those sites and tweaking a UserContent style sheet, I can pull up data using only a 19.2 kbps cell phone connection faster than my desktop with a broadband connection. Much faster than even a 3G iPhone.

Some Examples:

For local news > http://www.6abctogo.com

CSS Tweaks

Code:
@-moz-document url-prefix(http://www.6abctogo.com/) {
img {display: none !important }
}Code:
@-moz-document url-prefix(http://www.6abctogo.com/) {
body {font-size: 150% !important}
}^Sized just about right and with no ad images.

You can find a similar domain for other US cities @ http://www.localwireless.com/wap/

For stock & financial info I use > http://www.marketwatch.com/m/
with the same type of CSS tweaks

OAG > http://mobile.flightstats.com/

Wikipedia > http://wapedia.mobi/


And so on ...


I also forward to a Gmail account and use > https://mail.google.com/mail/x/ to access it. Tweak as required.

Oh yea, I almost forgot...

It is possible to add additional search engines to the Internet Search applet if you have root access to your tablet. The configuration files for the search applet are located under /usr/share/mis.

For example, for Google it looks like this:

--------------
<search name="Google"
icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/qgn_indi_search_google.png"
action="http://www.google.com/search"
user-input="q">
<input name="btnG" value="Search"/>
<input name="hl" value="en"/>
<input name="safe" value="medium"/>
<input name="client" value="ms-nokia-wifi"/>
</search>
--------------

If you add /m to the "action" line like so
Code:
action="http://www.google.com/m/search"Your searches will return results formatted for a mobile device if available.
Being able to tweak themes and other apps has also been a plus.

>> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=28

>> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=18637

So to sum up :) ...

Read, learn, and have fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 403841)
Try this for starters...

>> http://tldp.org/LDP/www.debian.org/d.../user/ch6.html

...and then this for a directory structure that's pretty close to what's used with Maemo.

>> http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-dir...-overview.html

If you run into any problems someone will help you out if you post what you want to do and how you are trying to do it.

I found that including "how you are trying to do it" will get a better response than just asking how. It provides a starting point for help. :)

BTW, it was a 16 year old young man from the east side of London who gave this old man from the west side of Philadelphia the push I needed. :)

>> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=502

Tintin 2009-12-06 23:55

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cha (Post 350177)
Ok, Got one of those stupid Questions..
ON the Nokia N800, the lastest Diablo Update. There is a program called X-Terminal with a Money sign for the Program Icon. What is X-Terminal and what do you do with it????? Thanks for the Help! :D

Xterminal is a window to your operating system.
If you are familiar with DOS it's the same concept (different commands for most part though).

The name of the operating system on your N800 is called Maemo and is a version/flavour of Linux.

If you find yourself bored some weekend. Take your N800 with you down to the local Barnes&Noble/Borders/Etc, grab a beginner's book in Linux and a coffee/whatever and read and follow along on your N800. Great fun.

scaler 2009-12-07 15:22

Re: N800 X-Terminal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 413487)

On the other hand you can download Pipeline's port of emelfm2 >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=18462

And visually see these files and folders everyone is concerned about.

YoDude, you quoted my post #5 just above these comments, and I have been puzzling to see any connection between them.

I think maybe you meant to quote Richie's post #4. Your comments do make sense as a reply to that one.


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