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OrangeBox 2009-12-09 00:45

Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Let me explain...If we take an N900 with a hypothetical $500 price and compare the hardware internals of an identically priced laptop, it is clear that the N900 should cost about $150-200.

And no, I don't believe that the 3.5 inch touch screen costs more than a 17 inch non-touch, or a 32GB flash costs more than a 500GB HD, or Maemo with Nokia customizations costs more than Windows 7, or the GSM/HSPA radio costs more than 802.11n. If you follow this line of reasoning you come to the conclusion that the N900 (and the iPhone and the BB and the Droid and all other smart phones) are a total rip-off price-wise.

Any counter arguments?

verhagke 2009-12-09 00:57

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
lol,

Simple economics. The fair price is what the market will bear.

And, what about fm receiver & transmitter, bluetooth, gps, accelerometers? Add those into your $500 laptop, and the price won't seem so bad.

Erik 2009-12-09 00:58

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
It probably only costs .20 cents to manufacture a video game for the PS3 too, but you also have to think about what goes into it before it is being produced ie; design, development, programming etc..

texaslabrat 2009-12-09 01:00

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
There is always a premium to be paid for packing features and processing power into a smaller (and/or mobile) form factor. Same reason that you can buy a desktop that will destroy a laptop for performance dollar-for-dollar. If you haven't figured that out yet, well...dunno what to tell you.

OrangeBox 2009-12-09 01:00

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by verhagke (Post 417840)
lol,

Simple economics. The fair price is what the market will bear.

And, what about fm receiver & transmitter, bluetooth, gps, accelerometers? Add those into your $500 laptop, and the price won't seem so bad.

No FM radio, but there is dual core cpu at 2.2 ghz. no bluetooth but there are 8 usb ports. no gps and accelerometers but 4GB of super fast ram.

Anything else?

OrangeBox 2009-12-09 01:02

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 417849)
There is always a premium to be paid for packing features and processing power into a smaller (and/or mobile) form factor. Same reason that you can buy a desktop that will destroy a laptop for performance dollar-for-dollar. If you haven't figured that out yet, well...dunno what to tell you.

So how much premium is reasonable? 400 percent sounds right?

texaslabrat 2009-12-09 01:03

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBox (Post 417855)
So how much premium is reasonable? 400 percent sounds right?

whatever the market will bear. Are you really that naive, or just trolling?

OrangeBox 2009-12-09 01:03

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by verhagke (Post 417840)
lol,

Simple economics. The fair price is what the market will bear.

And, what about fm receiver & transmitter, bluetooth, gps, accelerometers? Add those into your $500 laptop, and the price won't seem so bad.

Yes, the market will definitely bear Nokia's supressing supply close to Christmas. This is what's been happening. Ask anyone who preordered 2 months ago and still waiting for the actual device (me included).

verhagke 2009-12-09 01:04

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBox (Post 417850)
No FM radio, but there is dual core cpu at 2.2 ghz. no bluetooth but there are 8 usb ports. no gps and accelerometers but 4GB of super fast ram.

Anything else?

8 usb ports on a laptop?:confused: N900 has one btw

fra83fra 2009-12-09 01:06

Re: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost
 
It's well-known that most smartphones have a cost production of 100-150$ (Nokia's, iPhone, etc.)
but Theory 2: you produce and sell 100s million of 17" panels and 500GB hard disks so less profit for each one is ok anyway :)


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