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Corso85 2009-12-18 07:15

Help You. Identify the non-optified apps. (N900)
 
Dear All,

I'm currently at 97% of my root partition with 8mb left free. On My N900.

Here is the list of apps I have installed at the moment:

Note: Using the Perl Script, I've Added the non-opt space usage
Red is unusually high

mauku - 300K
countdown-home -
wormux - 16K (that was a surprise)
vpnc-gui - 76K
scummvm - 7.58MB (!!)
load-applet - 48K
ioquake3 - 2.7MB
sopwith - 8K
ukeyboard - 140K
pidgin - 2.91MB (hmm)
panucci - 12K
bounce - 20K (nice)
pygtkeditor - 76K
drnoksnes - 24K
vor - 12K
gonvert - 244K
vpnc - 4K
systeminfowidget - 16K
liqtorch - 44K
omweather - 24k
rdesktop - 188K
dosbox - 2.22MB (hmm)
wifiinfo - 584K
dtg - 200k
mbarcode - 128K
crimson - 16k
transmission - 20K
braek - 44K
zoutube - 8K
simple-fmtx-widget - 8K
stopwatch-home - 52K
gpodder - 16K
personal-gprs-mon - 44K
vncviewer - 124K
stockthis - 28K
maelstrom - 16K
personal-ip-address - 32K
mg - 304K
mirror - 76K
simple-brightness-applet - 16K
ati85 - 216K
tennix - 8K
xchat - 664K
unzip - 328K

enigma - 3.57MB
fmradio - 12K
madbomber - 8K
petrovich - 24K
recorder - 160K
mastory - 28K
liqflow - 56K
copernicium - 24K

Questions:
1. Which do you think are the major space eaters?
2. I'm eagerly awaiting the Apps in the Ovi Store, will I still be able to install them with my current free space condition?

Thank You. I apologize if this thread caused any redundancy.

fatalsaint 2009-12-18 07:24

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
Here's a debian command to sort all your applications by size...

Code:

dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k2 -n
Found here. (may need to pipe it through less).

This won't show you which ones are optified or not, but on the big ones you can check where they install to with dpkg -L <package name>. If my understanding of the n900 is right, if it installs anywhere but the /opt directory then there's something wrong.

Sasler 2009-12-18 07:24

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
ScummVM took quite a bit of space from root in my device, if I remember correctly.

onutz 2009-12-18 08:24

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
U can also try DiskUsage, it'll show you your root space as a pie and each folder in a graphic part of the pie

Corso85 2009-12-18 09:18

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onutz (Post 433062)
U can also try DiskUsage, it'll show you your root space as a pie and each folder in a graphic part of the pie

Ironically, that's only available in extras-devel, lool :p

dantonic 2009-12-18 09:29

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
This is quite an issue....
Most of what I've installed from extras also has taken up a decent amount of space in the root partition. I'm only at 76%, but I may not have installed much...

I have the following installed:

not quite sure if ALL of these are from extras, but most of them should be.
TI85
petrovic
Mirror
Bounce
Omweather
maemorecorder
VNC viewer
Conboy
ForecaWeather
zoutube
Xournal
office doc viewer suite
Hermes

I know these are from testing/devel
Dialcentral
Xchat

either way everytime I've installed something I've checked before and after installation, and rootfs definitely gets filled a bit each time...

Corwin 2009-12-18 09:29

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
MPlayer takes between 10 and 20 MB Rootfs space...

aspidites 2009-12-18 09:45

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 433009)
Here's a debian command to sort all your applications by size...

Code:

dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k2 -n
Found here. (may need to pipe it through less).

Unless I've missed something, less isn't on the N900. Can pipe it through 'more' though.

Corso85 2009-12-18 09:45

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
Maybe someone could explain it to me. why is it that the root was limited to 200ish, mb? was it a choice?

I mean the whole optification issue would have not been much of an issue if root was given a couple of gbs. There is like 32 on there :p

Just a matter of pushing neatness in packaging?

I'm not upset in anyway. It's fine. I just wanna enlighten myself :)

twaelti 2009-12-18 10:02

Re: Help You. Identify the non-optified apps.
 
root is on a special onboard memory chip with a size of 256 MB.
optification would not even be needed if we as devs had followed the standards, which basically say:
"This directory is reserved for all the software and add-on packages that are not part of the default installation" and "Under no circumstances are other package files to exist outside the /opt, /var/opt, and /etc/opt hierarchies except for those package files that must reside in specific locations within the filesystem tree in order to function properly"
There is also a Wiki entry. But a bit too complicated.


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