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FilthyShadow 2009-12-24 04:51

N900 Photo metadata
 
Is there a way of stopping the N900 putting metadata inside the pictures it takes?
Its causing havoc on my computer. I like to use windows photo viewer to rotate my files. Simple, but because of the metadata the n900 puts inside the file, it causes problems and windows photo viewer will not save the file. Can I stop the N900 from adding the information to the jpg?

j.s 2009-12-24 05:23

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyShadow (Post 439982)
Is there a way of stopping the N900 putting metadata inside the pictures it takes?
Its causing havoc on my computer. I like to use windows photo viewer to rotate my files. Simple, but because of the metadata the n900 puts inside the file, it causes problems and windows photo viewer will not save the file. Can I stop the N900 from adding the information to the jpg?

Most all digital cameras put metadata inside the pictures that they take. I don't see anything weird in the data in n900 images.

jpegtran can losslessly rotate images and perform other lossless operations. It ignores metadata and leaves it out of the transformed image.

FilthyShadow 2009-12-30 03:52

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
Well for reasons I can't work out the N900 is putting data in the image which tells advanced programmes such as Picasa or Lightroom which way up the image should be. This causes problems because the image will look fine, but if I email it, upload it or share it, it will come out as it was taken, not rotated. So for example, I open it up in picasa or lightroom to rotate it but it shows me that I don't have to. The image is fine. So I close it, but the thumbnail in windows explorer shows it unrotated. ARGH.
I wish I could stop the N900 doing this, no other camera I've had has done it. So my options are, use jpegtran which I fine tedious, strip all metadata from every image I copy over, even more tedious. Or I just give up.

wierdo 2009-12-30 04:33

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
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Originally Posted by FilthyShadow (Post 446173)
So I close it, but the thumbnail in windows explorer shows it unrotated. ARGH.
I wish I could stop the N900 doing this, no other camera I've had has done it. So my options are, use jpegtran which I fine tedious, strip all metadata from every image I copy over, even more tedious. Or I just give up.

Use lightroom correctly and you'll find that it works better. Lightroom never saves changes to images, it only remembers settings changes you made. Use the export function to export an image with all of your edits. (And with the correct orientation)

bgrigor 2009-12-30 04:54

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyShadow (Post 446173)
I wish I could stop the N900 doing this, no other camera I've had has done it. So my options are, use jpegtran which I fine tedious, strip all metadata from every image I copy over, even more tedious. Or I just give up.

N900 is setting the "Orientation" field to reflect the orientation of the camera when it took the picture. E.g. when I shoot verticals, I have the left side of the camera at the bottom. When I look at the EXIF data in ACDSee, it says "Orientation = Left Lower", which makes sense.

As long as the EXIF stays in tact, applications that understand this will display the image correctly. Without the EXIF "Orientation" data, you would have to manually rotate all your vertical images in your computer. That would be a major hassle.

Other cameras do this, e.g. my Canon 20D DSLR. The N900 is doing the right thing.

However, you can manually rotate the image in your editing application and this will reset the "Orientation" field to the default "Upper Left". Of course you will need to manualy rotate it back to get it upright again.

FilthyShadow 2009-12-30 05:41

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
I see. Now I understand it a bit more :D
Is there no way of turning off such a feature in the N900?
Although these programmes recognise the orientation, when I upload the images to facebook, they are of course going to be wrong. I honestly don't mind having to rotate them manually, its just 2 clicks. I wouldnt mind so much but the EXIF data plays havoc with the windows photo viewer.

bgrigor 2009-12-31 07:21

Re: N900 Photo metadata
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyShadow (Post 446243)
Is there no way of turning off such a feature in the N900?

I don't think so.


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