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daverod 2007-01-10 15:06

n800 and sleep mode
 
I both loved and hated the 770 sliding case. I hated having to slide the case slightly to get at the stylus. However, I loved knowing that every time I flipped the 770, it went to sleep immediately, without fail.

Now that I've got the 800, I realized that I can't find a way to explicitly put the device to sleep. What I noticed is that when I put the 800 into its soft case, then into my pocket (or my bag), it seems to go back and forth all day. I'm assuming pressure on the lcd wakes it up. By the end of the day, my battery is worm down.

I know I can hit power and then lock the lcd and keys, but do I really need to do this every time? (and then again to recover....)

daverod 2007-01-12 15:32

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Any ideas?

Mostly, the n800 stays in my bag or my pocket for the majority of the workday. I pull it out from time to time to jump online or just play with it. But it's when I get home after work that I really want to use it to read RSS feeds or what-have-you. It routinely runs out of battery after 20 or 30 mins of this use after having been powered on (in the bag) for most of the day.

I have to believe that I'm doing something wrong. The 770 handled this scenario without breaking a sweat. I could even skip a night on the charger and use it similarly for a second day. Because it went to sleep when I flipped the 770 in its case.

I thought (previous post) that if I simply hit the power button and selected 'Lock screen and keys', then it would ignore screen pressure in my bag and eventually go to sleep on its own. Sadly, that isn't the case. I noticed that upon screen pressure, the n800 happily turns the screen on and announces 'Press (power) and (select?) to unlock screen....'. This keeps it from truly suspending and eats battery life. (It also stays connected to the AP in range, which doesn't help. But this wouldn't really matter if it would just go to sleep.)

If it sits on a desk before going into the bag, it will eventually go to sleep, with a press of the power button needed to wake it up (rather than a tap of the screen). This doesn't make sense to me, as it limits the environment in which you could use the device effectively (think plane or bus).

If in order to extend the battery to an entire workday, I need to power the n800 up and down then it immediately loses much of the appeal for me. A tablet, in my eyes, serves an immediate-action sort of role.

Anyone else running into this?

jayholler 2007-01-12 16:25

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
You are right, there is no longer a way to put it in "sleep" mode. You can set the touchpad and keys to lock, but as you noted a physical touch of the screen turns it back on a moment to tell you how to unlock it. I think all the 770 did was turn off wifi, bluetooth, and the screen. Of course, you also had the cover to prevent accidental touches to the scrren.

So I think what we need is a little taskbar applet that locks those things simultaneously, and disables the touchscreen too. Anyone know how to do that?

aflegg 2007-01-12 16:34

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howto...gins_bora.html

jayholler 2007-01-12 16:55

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Awesome, maybe I will give it a try. Never developed anythingbefore, so it should be fun!

Karel Jansens 2007-01-12 17:01

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jayholler (Post 29157)
You are right, there is no longer a way to put it in "sleep" mode. You can set the touchpad and keys to lock, but as you noted a physical touch of the screen turns it back on a moment to tell you how to unlock it. I think all the 770 did was turn off wifi, bluetooth, and the screen. Of course, you also had the cover to prevent accidental touches to the scrren.

So I think what we need is a little taskbar applet that locks those things simultaneously, and disables the touchscreen too. Anyone know how to do that?

I don't get it: If I put my 770 to sleep with the hardware button ("lock touch screen and keys" option, everything stays off until I hit the power button and the enter key. I can hit the screen as hard as I can (well, not really, because that would be stupid), but it will not come on.

Is this option no longer available on the N800?

uczmeg 2007-01-12 17:25

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 29185)
I don't get it: If I put my 770 to sleep with the hardware button ("lock touch screen and keys" option, everything stays off until I hit the power button and the enter key. I can hit the screen as hard as I can (well, not really, because that would be stupid), but it will not come on.

Is this option no longer available on the N800?

That is still there and works.

Although you need to wait for the screen to timeout.

daverod 2007-01-12 17:46

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uczmeg (Post 29202)
Although you need to wait for the screen to timeout.

Exactly. If I let it sit on a desk, it times out and then I need to hit the power button to wake it up. But this behavior doesn't make sense in the context of mobility. If you shove the thing in your pocket, it will never timeout since the repeated screen touches will cause the n800 stay awake.

I'm thinking that locking the screen and keys should truly do exactly that. Or maybe a long keypress on the back button (on the home screen) could put it to sleep....

freeman 2007-01-12 18:01

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 29145)
Any ideas?

I thought (previous post) that if I simply hit the power button and selected 'Lock screen and keys', then it would ignore screen pressure in my bag and eventually go to sleep on its own. Sadly, that isn't the case. I noticed that upon screen pressure, the n800 happily turns the screen on and announces 'Press (power) and (select?) to unlock screen....'. This keeps it from truly suspending and eats battery life. (It also stays connected to the AP in range, which doesn't help. But this wouldn't really matter if it would just go to sleep.)

If it sits on a desk before going into the bag, it will eventually go to sleep, with a press of the power button needed to wake it up (rather than a tap of the screen). This doesn't make sense to me, as it limits the environment in which you could use the device effectively (think plane or bus).

If in order to extend the battery to an entire workday, I need to power the n800 up and down then it immediately loses much of the appeal for me. A tablet, in my eyes, serves an immediate-action sort of role.

Anyone else running into this?

If you send nokia regarding this issue, they will probably reply, "it's not a bug, it's a feature." And then you will SCREAM LOUDLY when you read the email, "F*** THAT"

Milhouse 2007-01-12 18:13

Re: n800 and sleep mode
 
I must say I don't want another taskbar applet, I want a shortcut keypress that achieves the same thing as slipping the cover on the 770.

I enjoyed the ability to surf on a train right up until the train stopped, safe in the knowledge that slipping on the case was a two second job before I left my seat. Now with the N800 I have to faff aounrd with a tiny recessed button on top of the device (which doesn't actually achieve the same effect as putting on the case) and I don't want a taskbar applet as I may have to switch from the full screen browser to the home screen and prod the applet with a finger/stylus - all of which will take longer than is necessary.

No, what I want is a shortcut keypress. For example, holding down Home for 2-3 seconds, or double-clicking Home (the latter should be faster for those in a rush). This would have the exact same effect as putting on the case cover - there should even be the checkbox in the Connections dialog to leave the wireless enabled once the device is in "sleep" mode. Resuming from sleep mode would be accomplished by holding or double clicking Home again, or perhaps pressing two different front buttons.


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