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el3ctronick 2010-02-19 03:45

wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
so, i really dont get this, first day they announce demo of maemo6 on N900. the second day they announce maemo as obsolete and we are moving to the "OS of the future": meego.
they dont know if it going to be available for N900...but they know they ll release it in less than a couple of months...:S

so..does the fact that they given us a taste of maemo6(or meego) on N900 mean that N900 will be the first device to run meego?

http://www.andreagrandi.it/2010/02/1...i-screenshots/

or they just wanna play with our minds to show what we are going to miss if we dont get the new replacement device of N900? if the second happens, this is very bad way to tease us for a new product.
i just wanna understand what is behind all this because clearly nokia knows if meego is going to be available for existing devices.(if it was good news though i m sure they would announce it)

somedude 2010-02-19 03:50

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...778#post533778

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=533452

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44926

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...068#post534068

It was not that hard to find these.

cyeung 2010-02-19 03:56

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
I do not think the scenario that you describe would make sense from the business perspective or PR perspective. It's obvious that taunting customers who bought your most expensive product like this is very, very bad for PR and does not bode well for long-term profitability. Furthermore, if Nokia has a demo of Meego on the N900, it means they spent money on this effort. From a systems engineering perspective, it would take just a wee bit more to bring it out to market.

ogre 2010-02-19 13:55

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cyeung (Post 535880)
I do not think the scenario that you describe would make sense from the business perspective or PR perspective. It's obvious that taunting customers who bought your most expensive product like this is very, very bad for PR and does not bode well for long-term profitability. Furthermore, if Nokia has a demo of Meego on the N900, it means they spent money on this effort. From a systems engineering perspective, it would take just a wee bit more to bring it out to market.

Nokia may have a demo of Meego on the N900, but that doesn't mean they plan to release it. If they release if they have to support it and there is currently evidently no plan to release or support it. For reference, see here http://techifile.blogspot.com/2010/0...t-yet-get.html

But it seems nothing is set in concrete, Perhaps enough requests on this forum will get them to change thinking!

spoonbuddy 2010-02-19 14:18

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
If it is ever released it will be after the launch of the first Maemo6 (Meego) device.

el3ctronick 2010-02-19 16:57

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
well from the video i watched, what the nokia guy said: more work for the n900 fanboys-they have to make it happen on their own.

cjp 2010-02-19 17:07

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
I've been thinking about this whole 'MeeGo' shindig and you know what?

On my N900, not a lot of content that I've added afterwards to the device has come from Nokia, except the firmware updates. Therefore I don't think that Maemo 5 is dead just because of its upcoming ugly-named cousin. What additional functionality has Nokia brought your device since the realease of the device? Not much. So what do you need Nokia's support for?

Afterthought: IS there anything stopping the community from making unofficial firmware updates? I think everything about Maemo is open? Even phone component specific drivers and everything else imaginable?

ogre 2010-02-19 22:10

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 536874)
Afterthought: IS there anything stopping the community from making unofficial firmware updates? I think everything about Maemo is open? Even phone component specific drivers and everything else imaginable?

As el3ctronic said....This is exactly what the Nokia guy in the video said. The Maemo community can produce their own version of Meego.

It is about getting apps not from Nokia, but from others. If meego is the future, then new apps will be built for meego!

However, i think the plan is probably for the first 'meego' device (the n9xx) from Nokia use the n900 electronics- but with a new processor family working with intel (e.g. atom). Which means the n900 could be an orphan in not just the OS, but also the processor family.

Putting meego on the n900 will ensure newer python apps or other interpreted apps will run, but C apps may need a recompile even if meego is there

ToJa92 2010-02-19 22:14

Re: wondering..maemo6 demo on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogre (Post 537436)
As el3ctronic said....This is exactly what the Nokia guy in the video said. The Maemo community can produce their own version of Meego.

It is about getting apps not from Nokia, but from others. If meego is the future, then new apps will be built for meego!

However, i think the plan is probably for the first 'meego' device (the n9xx) from Nokia use the n900 electronics- but with a new processor family working with intel (e.g. atom). Which means the n900 could be an orphan in not just the OS, but also the processor family.

I don't think using an Atom processor will happen, from what I have read it uses way too much power. Aren't MeeGo supposed to run on ARM devices or similar anyway? I suppose you could run it on X86, but still...
I'm just guessing around here.

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