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jerryfreak 2010-03-25 17:17

really, why no MMS?
 
not a troll or basher, i love my N900, but just having a hard time wrapping my brain around how such a basic feature could be omitted phone. i just dont get it. yeah i know its not 'a phone', yadda yadda.

fMMS is cool and all, i just with there was a way to keep my phone from constantly connecting to AT&T MMS, its annoying.

also with the having to manually switch to MMS connection to use it, i find myself never bothering

noobmonkey 2010-03-25 17:19

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
lol........ you did write this know that troll bashing would occur right? not because of the question, more because of lack of searching to find peoples opinions already :)

I would suggest sticking to the answer. MMS is not supported natively by the N900. End of story.

Ulrik 2010-03-25 17:22

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 582101)
not a troll or basher, i love my N900, but just having a hard time wrapping my brain around how such a basic feature could be omitted phone. i just dont get it. yeah i know its not 'a phone', yadda yadda.

fMMS is cool and all, i just with there was a way to keep my phone from constantly connecting to AT&T MMS, its annoying.

also with the having to manually switch to MMS connection to use it, i find myself never bothering

Because the N900 is not a phone. It is a tablet that can ring.

wmarone 2010-03-25 17:22

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 582104)
MMS is not supported natively by the N900.

I think he's aware of that, the question is "why." However, that can only be answered by Nokia and I don't think it really matters at this point.

If I understand what he's saying, using MMS directly conflicts with standard data services (since you have to switch APNs) and since the primary goal of the device is mobile internet, MMS was considered not a priority. At least that's my guess.

jerryfreak 2010-03-25 17:24

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
i guess it is a question for nokia, it just seems so odd that they would omit a basic feature like that. video calling i can understand. but mms has been in every smartphone for years now (apple doesnt count in my calculations)

santiago 2010-03-25 17:28

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 582104)
lol........ you did write this know that troll bashing would occur right? not because of the question, more because of lack of searching to find peoples opinions already :)

I would suggest sticking to the answer. MMS is not supported natively by the N900. End of story.

i dont think so. i keep the idea that maemo can include mms libs. Maemo is a linux kernel ;) dont forget bout it. they can change the apn settings to connect and disconnect by the imputs. its not hard for them (nokia developers i mean) then they can include the features for the mms ;)

noobmonkey 2010-03-25 17:36

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by santiago (Post 582118)
i dont think so. i keep the idea that maemo can include mms libs. Maemo is a linux kernel ;) dont forget bout it. they can change the apn settings to connect and disconnect by the imputs. its not hard for them (nokia developers i mean) then they can include the features for the mms ;)

But still not natively supported... :D - can be bodged, but not in nokias targets/milestones/ or interest i feel.

:D

I suppose it is one of the many i wants, and they prioritized the device to what they think the "customer" type would want :D

as much as i admit it would be great, it for me, is not an essential :D (Again personal view)

RevdKathy 2010-03-25 17:38

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Why no MMS: because MMS uses a completely different and increasingly out-dated connection system (WAP). It was decided that the n900 would not natively carry more than one apn - and that would be your GPRS/2-3G signal. Persuading n900 to create and connect to a separate apn was a chore in itself (it's no accident that's done with a separate programme before fMMS gets going). These days MMS is about the only thing which WAP is still used for, I think.

Nokia made a conscious decision not to bother, probably in order to focus on other things. When Frals stepped up to the plate they have supported him handsomely in making fMMS as the excellent solution that it is. And it's improving all the time.

If you are having problems with connecting to the wrong apn routinely, there's a fix for that. Try this.

BlackDiamond 2010-03-25 17:41

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
AFAIK, multiple active gprs connection is not supported by the linux kernel used for Maemo 5. Btw, much recent kernels support it.

crail 2010-03-25 17:43

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
i dont see the issue in changing the access point when you send/receive an mms. it tekes me about 3.2 seconds lol


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