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plssuckmime@hotmail.com 2010-04-06 08:00

English question
 
1, Always flash the FIASCO image first, then the eMMC image immediately after that. Never boot up the device between flashing the FIASCO image and the eMMC image!

2, When flashing the eMMC content, always flash the FIASCO/Rootfs image first, then the eMMC. Do not boot up the device between the two!

Q:
1, Can someone use simple, easy English(if Chinese I would be very excited) to explain these 2 sentences for me? Are they the same?
2, And what is FIASCO image?
3, Is "RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin" the FIASCO image or eMMC or Rom?

thank you very much--- a new N900 user coming from china

afaqali 2010-04-06 08:18

Re: English question
 
I dont know what Fiasco is but from the english both sentences do sound the same in process.

sorry cant answer part 2.

omeriko9 2010-04-06 08:20

Re: English question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
1, Can someone use simple, easy English(if Chinese I would be very excited) to explain these 2 sentences for me? Are they the same?

I'll try :)
Yes, they look the same.
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
2, And what is FIASCO image?

I'm not sure. I think it's the kind of compression used for the kernel image by Nokia.
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
3, Is "RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin" the FIASCO image or eMMC or Rom?

It's the FIASCO ( = kernel) image.
The eMMC looks something like
RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
( = have the word Vanilla in it...)

jaem 2010-04-06 08:23

Re: English question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
1, Always flash the FIASCO image first, then the eMMC image immediately after that. Never boot up the device between flashing the FIASCO image and the eMMC image!

The FIASCO image is the root filesystem image, for the on-board flash chip...
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
2, When flashing the eMMC content, always flash the FIASCO/Rootfs image first, then the eMMC. Do not boot up the device between the two!

The eMMC is the "internal memory card", which holds personal data, settings, and also extends the available application space via "optification" (wiki page is long and involved - don't bother reading unless curious)
I'm not very knowledgeable about the specifics of flashing, but what it's saying is that you should flash them one after another, in the order given, or else Bad Things will happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
Q:
1, Can someone use simple, easy English(if Chinese I would be very excited) to explain these 2 sentences for me? Are they the same?
2, And what is FIASCO image?

See above. FIASCO is the firmware image format used by the N900 and other Nokia devices. (The acronym is actually kind of ironic when you think about it. :P
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
3, Is "RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin" the FIASCO image or eMMC or Rom?

thank you very much--- a new N900 user coming from china

To be honest, I'm not sure...

plssuckmime@hotmail.com 2010-04-06 08:28

Re: English question
 
thank you
omeriko9 and jaem
very much

qwerty12 2010-04-06 08:30

Re: English question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597340)
1
3, Is "RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin" the FIASCO image or eMMC or Rom?

Why not find out for yourself?

Quote:

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe -f -F "C:\Documents and Setti
ngs\Faheem Pervez\Desktop\Fremantle\fremantle_stars_latest\RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.3
6-3.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
"
flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

Image 'mmc', size 234353 kB
Version RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.36-3.VANILLA

Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
^C
C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe -f -F "C:\Documents and Setti
ngs\Faheem Pervez\Desktop\Fremantle\fremantle_stars_latest\RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.3
8-13_PR_LEGACY_MR0_ARM.bin
"
flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

SW version in image: RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.38-13_PR_MR0
Image 'kernel', size 1697 kB
Version 2.6.28-20093805+0m5
Image 'rootfs', size 162560 kB
Version RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.38-13_PR_MR0
Image 'cmt-2nd', size 81408 bytes
Version 8.2.2009.34.2-2+0m5
Image 'cmt-algo', size 519808 bytes
Version 8.2.2009.34.2-2+0m5
Image 'cmt-mcusw', size 5782 kB
Version 8.2.2009.34.2-2+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14464 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 10, 13
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14592 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 10, 13
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109312 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 10, 13
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1301, 1401, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1301, 1401, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1301, 1401, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 06
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 06
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 98432 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 06
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1601, 1602, 1603, 1604, 1605
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1601, 1602, 1603, 1604, 1605
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1601, 1602, 1603, 1604, 1605
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 09, 12
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 09, 12
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 98432 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 09, 12
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14464 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 04
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14592 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 04
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 04
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14464 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0902
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14592 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0902
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0902
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1701, 1702
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1701, 1702
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1701, 1702
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 02
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 02
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 02
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14464 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 03
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14592 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 03
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 03
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14464 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 07
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14592 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 07
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 07
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0510, 0511, 0513
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0510, 0511, 0513
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 98432 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0510, 0511, 0513
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 05
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 05
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 05
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 8576 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 01
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 8704 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 01
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 98304 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 01
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1801, 1802, 1803
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1801, 1802, 1803
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1801, 1802, 1803
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1201
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1201
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1201
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14080 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0512, 0701, 0801
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14208 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0512, 0701, 0801
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0512, 0701, 0801
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0901, 0903, 1001
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0901, 0903, 1001
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109056 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 0901, 0903, 1001
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 08, 11
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 08, 11
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 08, 11
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2001, 2002, 2003
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2001, 2002, 2003
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109184 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2001, 2002, 2003
Version 1.4.11.1+0m5

Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
^C
C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>
This was obviously done without a device connected; notice the difference in output?

Oh, I misread a bit. That bin is a FIASCO image; do the above to find out whether it is an eMMC image or not.


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