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Konceptz 2010-05-02 22:09

A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
I really believe, had the "leaked firmware" come from any other source than a Chinese person, the entire reception would be different.

Even now, among the countless PR1.2 threads, the one sticky is given to a warning thread and not an full diclosure thread. I really think we need solid information and testing, and not a hushed forum full of locked and renamed threads.

We all joined these forums in order to gather and discuss maemo, yet I have to wade through all the superiority complexes in order to find useful information and constructive discussion.

jiao wo jia ren, not wai ren.

maluka 2010-05-02 22:12

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
The leaked firmware has been breaking people's phones. It was designed for the China-specific hardware I believe. It has nothing to do with nationalism.

Laughing Man 2010-05-02 22:14

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Not to mention it's also a month old at the very least.

Konceptz 2010-05-02 22:21

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 639314)
Not to mention it's also a month old at the very least.


a month old is how many months newer than 1.11?

tissot 2010-05-02 22:25

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 639329)
a month old is how many months newer than 1.11?

At least month of not enough of testing for new bug fixes and features that 1.11 got nothing to do. ;)

Rauha 2010-05-02 22:26

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 639307)
I really believe, had the "leaked firmware" come from any other source than a Chinese person, the entire reception would be different.

Even now, among the countless PR1.2 threads, the one sticky is given to a warning thread and not an full diclosure thread. I really think we need solid information and testing, and not a hushed forum full of locked and renamed threads.

We all joined these forums in order to gather and discuss maemo, yet I have to wade through all the superiority complexes in order to find useful information and constructive discussion.

jiao wo jia ren, not wai ren.

Haven't noticed any anti-chinese rhetoric during this whole mess. Could you point to a post with western superiority complex? I wasn't even aware that the leak was from china. Just that it came from someone called 'caviar' who hadn't made any posts before the leak.

YoDude 2010-05-02 22:27

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 639329)
a month old is how many months newer than 1.11?

I'm thikin' some guy at Toyota used the same pretzel logic. :rolleyes:

Development is not linear.

maxximuscool 2010-05-02 22:34

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
2 Attachment(s)
I test this PR1.2 on my device and found a few problems with the Font for other language support to be too small to read. For example in my case Khmer/Cambodian font.

Whereas in PR1.1.1 the font size is very big and easily readable.
Anyone know how to fix this?

KapCaveman 2010-05-02 22:48

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Could you point me in the direction of the N900 leaked firmware releases from other locations that had a different reception?

Could you point out to me the posts that have talked about the(possible) chinese origin of the release being the reason for mistrust.

Could you tell the people that have had problems how they should keep quiet about them so as not to draw inferences on the (possible) chinese origin of those problems?

Could you explain why the country it was leaked from would have any bearing on whether unreleased, unknown origin, unknown function, unknown purpose, unknown reliability firmware where it's not known what functionality is available, the state of that functionality the future upgrade path of that firmware, the product codes that it is expected to work with, the languages it works with and whether someone might have tampered with any of the code should be considered safe to use?

If you were concerned that the country of origin of a piece of software might influence your decision to trust a particular piece of leaked code would you consider that those states that censor information flow and are known to make attacks on the corporate infrastructure of large organisations might be particularly suspect?

Speaking for myself I am still tempted to try it, has anyone confirmed whether Madde Integration with the beta Qt SDK works?

zimon 2010-05-02 22:50

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 
Maemo is based on Debian, which uses DEB-packages, which do not have embedded cryptographic signatures (like RPM packages usually have); so from where ever you install outside of the repositories you take extra risks and you cannot find anyone in responsible of possible Trojan horses.


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