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abill_uk 2010-05-27 15:11

N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
First of all let me explain why i started this thread.
There are now many detrimental issue's being reported about the N900 and i want to prove just how clever the N900 actually is from the design point for developers so here is YOUR chance to add comments from a pure technical viewpoint.
First of all i want to clear something here about the word "bricked".
Countless threads are talking about "bricked" my N900 etc etc etc and i feel its very unfair indeed to use the word BRICKED in the case of the N900 because any mobile in the past that has earned this title means that to reverse the "bricked" situation normally required specialised manufacturers equipment or hacking equipment to get the device "un-bricked" and can not normally be done by end user or it's owner AND sometimes has indeed been an IRREVERSIBLE situation in many cases ie DEAD device.

The design of the N900 i must say after looking at both the hardware and software designed by Nokia has been done with great expertize as any of the so called "bricked" situations has been easily reversed by end user with very little equipment or knowledge needed (if any at all) as the advice is here on this forum for ANY given problematic "bricked" situation in easy read and understandable form thanks to the work from members of this community so therefore the "bricked" situation is no more than a REVERSIBLE loop situation to get the device back up and running simply by flashing the devices firmware back to reverse the fault of programming failure in the very worst scenario.

The N900 is actually an incredible piece of hardware as the design was well thought out for development purposes to enable just about anyone to have a go at programming with any mistakes REVERSIBLE with a simple flash situation and that to my knowledge is a very first for any mobile phone and is also subject to debate on this thread.

Now here is your chance to have input to really enlighten all the skeptics and the very people that put down the N900 as a piece of garbage basically that it is in fact an incredible device with HUGE potential, this i feel is important to the community and the N900 to gain back some credibility.

I have looked at every angle here and can not find a way to destroy or truly brick (non reversible) the N900 apart from one aspect that will indeed damage and that is the overclocking situation.
This is another aspect and i am not asking overclocking to be even talked about here as its obvious potential damaging results without proper cooling to the processor will indeed brick (irreversible) the N900 (unless new cpu component(s) can be replaced).
Also the USB design fault is indeed repairable so is not permanent.

I am asking for anything and everything at all SOFTWARE wise that will truly brick IRREVERSIBLY the N900 to be talked about on this thread.

Over to the community for discussion.

juanenrique 2010-05-27 15:13

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
i just bricked my n900!!!


(nah... just kiddin') :D

GameboyRMH 2010-05-27 15:25

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
Thank you. The word "bricked" has been horribly perverted, originally it meant that YOU CANNOT FIX IT without swapping hardware (if you can fix it at all) for example a failed BIOS flash on a PC mobo.

Over time it's been used for less and less serious situations, until we're at this point where if your Windows install fails to boot because of a corrupted system file, they say your "PC is bricked"...

http://bsaidso.files.wordpress.com/2...lm_picard2.jpg

9000 2010-05-27 15:31

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
Let me try....

Play n900fly on a concrete ground, make a record height but fail to catch it back?

wmarone 2010-05-27 15:35

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 683104)
Let me try....

Play n900fly on a concrete ground, make a record height but fail to catch it back?

No, that's "your N900 cratered" not "your N900 was bricked."

craftyguy 2010-05-27 15:41

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
It's not easy to brick, but it's ridiculously easy to botch OTA updates and require reflashing and a few hours of restoring from backup! I don't think I've ever had a successful OTA update since I bought the device in December!

But it is impossibly hard to brick :)

kevinm2k 2010-05-27 15:46

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
... Pick up a brick and smash your phone to bits? Surely that has to count as bricking it, and I really doubt a reflash would fix... although you never know!!

abill_uk 2010-05-27 15:53

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
If you read the starter post of this thread it actually say's "I am asking for anything and everything at all software wise that will truly brick IRREVERSIBLY the N900 to be talked about on this thread."
Damaging the N900 by any other means is silly to even suggest let alone do lol.
The N900 is worth far far more than throwing it because of frustration gained from not knowing how to programme it in the first place lol.

teh 2010-05-27 15:54

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinm2k (Post 683151)
... Pick up a brick and smash your phone to bits? Surely that has to count as bricking it, and I really doubt a reflash would fix... although you never know!!

It'll t cut out then it should reflash :)

But I agree, a very versatile device. Try and "reflash" an iphone due to a bad os update, doubt that would happen.

There is potential for this to be the next jesus phone, but we need the developers to help that along!

hawaii 2010-05-27 15:56

Re: N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.
 
Botch your CMT MCSU and use flasher --disable-cmt-verify. See what happens.

The N900 has JTAG-ability, so the majority of all things CAN be fixed, you just need the proper hardware and software.


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