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fahadj2003 2010-07-01 02:32

no drm means no good apps?
 
hi
i've recent read that n900 doesnt have a drm and wont have many paid apps and the guy's got a point
so we wont see any good apps/games from other companies?
good = not free
coz s60v5 had many apps in its first few months and honestly, all maemo has are repeated apps *different names, same features* or kinda apps not usually needed my many
how close am i?
is maemo a fail?

** edit
the point it the thread is, is no drm a good idea or bad one?
is it effecting the variety off apps?

geneven 2010-07-01 02:57

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
Hi!

If good = not free

you're right!

That's why wikipedia sucks!

That's why the sun sucks!

That's why love sucks!

They are all free!!

kureyon 2010-07-01 03:14

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 736521)
i've recent read that n900 doesnt have a drm and wont have many paid apps and the guy's got a point
so we wont see any good apps/games from other companies?

Check out what apps are already available and what apps are in development:

http://maemo.nokia.com/maemo-select/
https://garage.maemo.org/

Quote:

good = not free
Nonsense!

Quote:

coz s60v5 had many apps in its first few months and honestly, all maemo has are repeated apps *different names, same features* or kinda apps not usually needed my many
If there are specific apps that you need before deciding whether to get the N900 then list them and maybe people can tell you whether they are available or not. Eg the iphone may have thousands of "apps" (the vast majority of them, 90%+, are hardly downloaded at all) but it doesn't have the programs I need.

For me the huge advantage of the N900 is access to the vast repository of "desktop" linux apps thru Easy Debian. That allows me to have full access to all my email using thunderbird, and to have a full featured office package in the form of openoffice.org.

Quote:

is maemo a fail?
It depends on your needs. I consider MS Windows an epic fail - but millions of people think otherwise (or don't know better ;) )

YoDude 2010-07-01 03:23

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
You are close...

In the final analysis Maemo may have attracted more wanting free beer instead of free speech. As a result all possible delivery options may not have been explored. New methods did not seem to develop from within the community.

To be fair, some of our communities best and brightest often found that the alleys that they did explore ended in a closed source dead end or barricade erected by Nokia its own dang self.

In many ways MeeGo is a "do over", IMHO.

Although MeeGo is being touted as step 5 of 5, some feel that the first 4 steps were heading North and that 5th step went East. At least that is the way these tracks look like to someone like me who must follow them instead of making them. :)

fahadj2003 2010-07-01 05:01

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
if ure really making a good useful app, why would u sell it for free?
would that make sense?

ysss 2010-07-01 05:15

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
I think no DRM generally means = no 'exclusive' big budget apps/games.

Once the software have been created for other platforms and the producers have recouped their investment, then they have less financial burden and are more likely to take risks on distributing on platforms with no DRM.

See also: Rovio :)

devu 2010-07-01 05:20

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
Ask those people for example
http://www.openttd.org/en/

Yes you right, money driving this business. And at some point I agree, should be some non free market beside for wider choice.

Bud the big question is.. is Open Source community really wont them? Or if You as Open Source guy for ideological reason did you even start this thread?

If you do not understand genesis of Open Source movement (No as we know these days seen through the lenses of corporations) there is no answer for your question.

spag 2010-07-01 05:23

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 736600)
if ure really making a good useful app, why would u sell it for free?
would that make sense?

So tell me...
why is Linux free?
why is Apache free?
why is OpenOffice free?
why is Firefox free?
why is gcc free?
why is Python free?

http://www.fsf.org/working-together/

devu 2010-07-01 05:32

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
And imagine world where every single line of code or just programing method or language belong to some corporation. Our IT world exist because of free access to the knowledge and technology.

The day when US gov wanted to put patent restriction to the line of code was the 1st sign of the End of The World as we know. And symptom that people actually silently agreed to pay for freedom. I am only wondering why... better quality app called life? Show me :D

fahadj2003 2010-07-01 05:40

Re: no drm means no good apps?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spag (Post 736612)
So tell me...
why is Linux free?
why is Apache free?
why is OpenOffice free?
why is Firefox free?
why is gcc free?
why is Python free?

http://www.fsf.org/working-together/

this isnt a debate about free or not free
ever studied business?
money is a motive
money provides resources
one person or 2 or even 4.. vs a whole company?
whats more efficient?
and there are basically 2 apps that i need
both were paid apps in s60 and both are absent in maemo


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