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bugelrex 2010-09-27 00:16
NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
New York Times article with interviews of ex-Nokia Management

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/te...a.html?_r=1&hp


Seems it was internal politics and red-tape that keep Nokia from innovating. At least they actually did realize Symbian needed to be improved

Hopefully the new CEO will simply restructure and kick out all the dead weight and fanboy employees who refuse to innovate

tso 2010-09-27 01:05
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Ugh, more mobile world as seen from US myopia.

before the apple app store i had used serveral phones that came with pre-configured shortcuts to "web stores" where i could download "apps" for my phones. the payment of these would be my monthly phone bill. And this was for "featurephones". And i am sure nokia ran something similar.

As for the touchscreen phone that never happened, is that a mention of the 7700?

Also, whats up with not mentioning the N800 or N810 that was followups to the 770? Its as if the 770 was the only device in the series.

gerbick 2010-09-27 01:13
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
It's doubtful that any article will make anybody from this community happy.

So... I propose that this community writes a definitive article, with proper sources (read: not opinion) and write that up. I'm very curious to see that.

quipper8 2010-09-27 01:16
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
man, was that an article or an editorial?

so, the average person reading this article will wrongly assume:

1. that nokia touch screen phones only work with styluses
2.Nokia has never improved symbian
3.Nokia has nothing that can compete with the iphone


There was also no mention at all of :

1.the current legal battles between Nokia and Apple.
2.maemo/meego

Laughing Man 2010-09-27 01:21
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 827012)
It's doubtful that any article will make anybody from this community happy.

So... I propose that this community writes a definitive article, with proper sources (read: not opinion) and write that up. I'm very curious to see that.
What sources? That Nokia constantly favors Symbian over Maemo? I don't think we need sources to figure that one out.

imperiallight 2010-09-27 01:32
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 827013)
man, was that an article or an editorial?

so, the average person reading this article will wrongly assume:

1. that nokia touch screen phones only work with styluses
2.Nokia has never improved symbian
3.Nokia has nothing that can compete with the iphone
They will rightly assume these things.

That nokia was late to catch on with capacitative technology is well known.

Symbian is not a competitive high end offering like it once was so in this sense it is not improved.

Nokia has nothing commercial that can come near the iPhone.

quipper8 2010-09-27 01:34
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 827022)
They will rightly assume these things.

That nokia was late to catch on with capacitative technology is well known.

Symbian is not a competitive high end offering like it once was so in this sense it is not improved.

Nokia has nothing commercial that can come near the iPhone.
nowhere in the article was capacitive or resistive mentioned

symbian is obviously still competitive

wow, not really

tso 2010-09-27 01:37
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 827022)
That nokia was late to catch on with capacitative technology is well known.
One do not need capacitive to have a finger friendly interface.

What is needed however is a UI with large targets.

matthew maude 2010-09-27 01:50
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
we need to stick to resistive, just improve on it
i need a stylus for its accuracy but multitouch needs implementing -D

quipper8 2010-09-27 01:52
Re: NYT: Internal politics doomed Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by matthew maude (Post 827029)
we need to stick to resistive, just improve on it
i need a stylus for its accuracy but multitouch needs implementing -D
and for chinese, resistive is way better

case in point, the motorola mt810, a capacitive android phone with a flip down resistive screen(mainly for chinese input)


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