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ericsson 2011-01-27 13:06

NOKIA is still strong
 
sorta, smartphone sales still groing. 5 million Symbian3 devices sold. Lots of news coming in February (again some will say, but nevertheless, this time with Elop)

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...s-profits_.php

vvaz 2011-01-27 14:57

Re: NOKIA is still strong
 
Strong is exaggeration but it isn't doing bad. I think in next two weeks all reports for whole 2010 will be in and it will be possible to compare with other companies.

nilchak 2011-01-27 17:00

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yeah, but Smartphone market share is seriously donw - down to 31% globally.

So while handset sales increased, marketshare decreased.

As Elop himself put it - "In short the industry changed and Nokia needs to change fast"

mikecomputing 2011-01-27 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 930038)
yeah, but Smartphone market share is seriously donw - down to 31% globally.

So while handset sales increased, marketshare decreased.

As Elop himself put it - "In short the industry changed and Nokia needs to change fast"

[Trolling]
Yes thats why Elop will say Nokia goers WP7 at the meeting 11 february

[/Trolling]

theflew 2011-01-27 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 930038)
yeah, but Smartphone market share is seriously donw - down to 31% globally.

So while handset sales increased, marketshare decreased.

As Elop himself put it - "In short the industry changed and Nokia needs to change fast"

Needless to say the market is growing faster than Nokia can increase sales, thus the negative trend in market share. I can understand why Nokia's next flagship devices (N9?) has to be a hit (i.e. surprise the market, not just keep up).

The N8 and E7 are nice, but in the marketing world we live in it's all about the numbers (RAM, processor, apps, screen size, etc..). If you don't play the game you better have something significantly different that everyone understands it's value. The N8 and E7 are good, just not ground breaking.

craftyguy 2011-01-27 18:27

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Nokia has become the Kia/Hyundai of cell phone manufacturers.

Excels at making cheap products, however you wouldn't want to buy anything sporty or 'fun' from them

Dave999 2011-01-27 18:28

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Well nokia is one of the players that really can handle 3 OS with their huge volumes. I'm starting to believe that this might be the right way. Just not Android plz.

ericsson 2011-01-27 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 930101)
Nokia has become the Kia/Hyundai of cell phone manufacturers.

Excels at making cheap products, however you wouldn't want to buy anything sporty or 'fun' from them

hmm, like the N900?? or maybe the N8? you know that the N8 has sold mor units in the last two months last year than iPhone 4 and the 3gs combined. Not bad for a "cheapo" phone at US$ 500 a piece with an outdated OS that "no one" wants :)

Nokia is simply too slow, maybe they are too large to react quck enough. The N8 came 6 months too late, the E7 is still not here and any MeeGo devices? where are they? But Nokia is keeping up, they are growing in the fast expanding smartphone market, albeit slower than Android devices.

As long as they keep making phones like the N900 or N8, I really don't care how big they are, because no one else bother making phones like these phones. All the others are all the same boring "screens", except maybe Palm/HP.

woussie 2011-01-27 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 930121)
hmm, like the N900?? or maybe the N8? you know that the N8 has sold mor units in the last two months last year than iPhone 4 and the 3gs combined. Not bad for a "cheapo" phone at US$ 500 a piece with an outdated OS that "no one" wants :)

Wow, easy there. Source?

A quick google search told me that Nokia sold 4 million N8 units in two months after the release, which is an impressive number indeed (hats off to Nokia), but also that the iPhone 4 sold 3 units in the first month after the release. So, more than the iPhone 4 and the 3gs combined... I don't think so. But the numbers also prove that the N8 is doing good, so your point is still correct ;)

shockgiga 2011-01-27 19:34

Re: NOKIA is still strong
 
i just dont understand how a world leading mobile phone manufacturer, with way more resources ( man power, money ) and most of all, experience, is struggling to immediately come up with a better answer to IOS ever since the iphone came out. ( disputable, but sales do talk )

it just depresses me that they are wasting time and money.


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