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demolition 2011-10-25 00:00
bbc iplayer - Oct 2011 onwards (seeking Flash 10+ work-around)
 
Dammit!
I used iplayer this morning (8 hrs ago) and it was fine. Anyone else have a problem? Might be flash 10 ?

Edit:
Symptom: main iplayer diverts to "mobile not supported"
Cause: iplayer site uses annoying browser-detect. BBC knows of our existance but not what we can do!
(a) To view iplayer site, User Agent must be set to Firefox for X11-armel, not default Maemo Browser.

Symptom: Content player is not visible on main iplayer site, even wiith flash tweaker set to 10.2. (Reason for initial post)
Cause: Problem caused by BBC forcing users to install flash 10.1+. Our flash version < 10.1 so we just see a black space.
Workarounds: Go to www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen - it's designed for consoles using flash 7. Radio works (128kbps only). Video stream is 800kbps so too high for N900.

Symtom: 400kbps (400x224 flashlow) stream is not retrievable using get_iplayer
Cause: BBC stopped hosting this stream.
Workaround: Fixed (8th Dec 2011); 400kbps is back online. It cannot be viewed on the website, only via get_iplayer.

dansus 2011-10-25 01:02
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Sorry my crystal ball is on the blink, maybe you could expand a little?

xRobby 2011-10-25 01:11
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
There has been a recent update to BBC iPlayer. That might be causing the problem. Whatever your problem is.

Hootenholler 2011-10-25 01:15
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
As long as I switch the browser user agent, it still works for me. Never works in stock MicroB anymore.

demolition 2011-10-25 09:57
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
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Apologies for not being clearer.
Problem: The portion of a page on the iplayer site that contains the flash is not visible.
Steps leading to problem:
I wanted to use iplayer (e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ay_24_10_2011/) , as I had done just a few hours previously. However, the flash part of page didn't load. My assumption was that it was because the BBC are now actually using flash 10 features, thus tweaker wouldn't work.
Settings:
Tweak-flash version: AND 10 1 61 0
UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
JS pausing: After 15 seconds

Question: can anyone else still use iplayer on his/her N900? (without using get_iplayer) - If so, what settings do I need to apply?

Screenshot below...

JonWW 2011-10-25 10:15
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1113293)
...Question: can anyone else still use iplayer on his/her N900? (without using get_iplayer) - If so, what settings do I need to apply?
I just got this by going to www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/3180...1fd08a5534.jpg

I then redirects to www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer/tv, which I didn't want

demolition 2011-10-25 10:20
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonWW (Post 1113302)
I just got this by going to www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

IMG

I then redirects to www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer/tv, which I didn't want
In this case, your need to change the UA string with "Hide User Agent" to the one above. Although it's in -devel, it's stable but not that user friendly because you need to type/paste in the UA string instead of picking one from a list.

JonWW 2011-10-25 10:25
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1113307)
In this case, your need to change the UA string with "Hide User Agent" to the one above. Although it's in -devel, it's stable but not that user friendly because you need to type/paste in the UA string instead of picking one from a list.
Which is why I have always steered clear of it.

I have always used a get_iplayer script to download vids to view at a later time.
I always concidered the live site to be to much of a pain to use as it always over stretches the flash player so flattens the battery to quickly.

demolition 2011-10-25 10:42
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonWW (Post 1113312)
Which is why I have always steered clear of it.

I have always used a get_iplayer script to download vids to view at a later time.
I always concidered the live site to be to much of a pain to use as it always over stretches the flash player so flattens the battery to quickly.
All valid points. Generally, I use get_iplayer for tv/video and web for radio/audio. Why? The video playback is better even with --mode=flashlow (400kbps) because it's not an over-clocked device. But, for radio it seems a lot of content isn't 'seen' by get_iplayer, even when it's still on the website.

I would like to be able to watch and listen to streams without going through all the steps to download it. And, what upsets me most is that we're now prevented from accessing content that the N900 can actually play (probably politics!).

Edit:
Ahhh... this partially solves it - big screen (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/bigscreen/) still works. Guess they've got to cater for flash 7 on the Wii? I find the video stream doesn't resize down to the 400kbps one needed for us, like the proper website/console version does.

Ideas anyone?

JonWW 2011-10-25 10:49
Re: bbc iplayer - Oct 2011
 
Didn't know that get_iplayer didn't see all radio, I found it can see more TV than the web, but I don't listen to BBC radio.
Have you tried get_iplayer and podcasts to see if they moved what you wanted to a podcast, there can be many thousands of podcasts


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