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-   -   Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79461)

Pulzar 2011-10-28 20:54
Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
http://everythingn9.com/firefox-10-nokia-n9/

A nightly build of Firefox 10 has been released for public and I must say it is just perfect. Very much faster than the unofficial 9 build found at my-meego.com.

I installed it on top of the unofficial 9 build and it upgraded perfectly. This post was made with the firefox 10 beta.

jaeezzy 2011-10-30 14:35
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Is there a video you can share with us - esp N9 fanatics without N9 yet.. Thank you.

ezameht 2011-10-30 14:54
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I agree. Runns really well. A little speed improvement would still be good.

olympus 2011-10-30 16:09
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
and a little flash support would be good too :P

shmerl 2011-11-01 06:45
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Firefox continues to improve hardware acceleration support, so that shows in the newer nightly. But now it faces a way more serious problem than just speed:


http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...6bd0f8f044a33d
http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...eb8648c03e9d10

ste-phan 2011-11-01 09:15
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Performance is nothing special,

The rendering with of some text sections is not optimized to coop with the limitations of the N9's screen.

But I am glad to find the adblock plus addon to be supported in this version.
As well as the master password option.

Maemomd 2011-11-01 14:29
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1116696)
Firefox continues to improve hardware acceleration support, so that shows in the newer nightly. But now it faces a way more serious problem than just speed:


http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...6bd0f8f044a33d
http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...eb8648c03e9d10
There goes Firefox for N9.

don_falcone 2011-11-01 14:37
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
> Do you consider at some point supporting a full blown Qt port

Full Qt is just as bad for Mozilla as full native Android UI is. We are
dedicated to the Open Web and using "webby" technology to build our UI
is the anchor point of the success of our Add-ons system. Without it,
that's gone. If it's giving in to a system that was built to make
everything non-Dalvik to suck and recognize that Google has won on
Android or if it's throwing everything away for Qt does not matter. Both
are equally not reflecting what Mozilla stands for - innovation and the
Open Web.

The native Android UI is only done because that system sucks so much for
doing things without a "native" UI that it looks like we can't avoid it
for low-perf devices that have a really big share of the market. I'm
pretty sure we only would think about doing the same with Qt if Qt-based
devices would rule the market equally as Android and iOS do on the
smartphone market right now and at the same time those Qt-based devices
would equally suck on running the "webby" UI that actually reflects what
Mozilla stands for.

Robert Kaiser
...aah, umm, yeah, so why still no Fennec for webOS then? That whole shiznit is built on a "webby" foundation you ID10T.

erendorn 2011-11-01 15:04
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1116885)
...aah, umm, yeah, so why still no Fennec for webOS then? That whole shiznit is built on a "webby" foundation you ID10T.
I don't get what is the relation (or non relation) between Qt and the Open Web...
What he says boils down to:
"Firefox relies on Add-ons, which relies on XUL (not a standard by the way), which would be a hell of difficult to fully reimplement in Qt, and would still be an interpreted UI anyway, because it's by design."

The terms "stands for", "dedicated", "Open Web", "innovation", "Android s*cks" are just there for the show IMHO.

shmerl 2011-11-01 15:23
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
XUL is not less standard than QML, MXML or anything of the same sort. It was designed for the same purpose - creating UIs. But it didn't really develop into generally used tool outside Mozilla.

I'm not really sure about what's less webby in QML in comparison to XUL, but the point is, XUL UI already exists now in Firefox in a portable form. Anything outside that will be limiting (unless for example you reimplement the whole thing in QML and rely on Qt portability instead).


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