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Dave999 2013-01-23 12:50

What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
I think all mobile OS and ecosystems failing when it comes to securety simply becouse that wasn't a priorety when they were designed.

during 2013 I'm sure we will see worse things happen simply when entering a weburl. This is pretty limited so far and most focus on when you install something.

Apple encrypt all data which is exellent but how do apps send information, the most apps I have been investigated send username and password in clear text which makes me pissed :rolleyes:.

mobiles are simply not secure! To me android has seriuos securety issues, with apple, microsoft and BB slightly better. What do you think?

herpderp 2013-01-23 13:06

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
Have you seen this?

Dave999 2013-01-23 13:20

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1316933)
Have you seen this?

Have you tried it? might try it on emulator. But seems a bit annoying when vendors pumping out so much products, all different. impossible to keep up.

herpderp 2013-01-23 13:26

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
That's why you should get a Nexus.

switch-hitter 2013-01-23 13:36

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1316930)
To me android has seriuos securety issues, with apple, microsoft and BB slightly better. What do you think?

At least Android tells you what permissions an app requires, with Apple you have no way of knowing.

I read a report stating a researcher from a US university tested around 60 (I think it was 56) of the most popular apps from the Apple app store and found all but a handful were harvesting data and sending it off to remote servers. Most apps were encrypting what they sent so he couldn't say what the data was just that some was being sent. I'll try and find a link to the report, I'm sure I've got it bookmarked on one of my computers.

Aren't the problems with Android users installing malware and giving it permission to run rather than some sophisticated exploit?

Another issue is most SD cards are formatted as Fat 32 which I understand doesn't support the assigning of permissions so apps have free reign over anything stored there.

Dave999 2013-01-23 13:39

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
Yes, I will go for nexus 5, but that doesn't really solve anything ;).

But I'm thinking in a bigger area here, not a specific device or app. The over ecosystem and OS. Sandboxing more could be one area to move to but that is not perfect either...


Androids permission is a joke. User still not understand what they mean and when they sees them the first time they have already clicked twice and will likely to click again without thinking twice about it. Apple has some restrictions, YES but google is wide open they just recently admit that there was a problem, before that they are in total denial. Google mostly move when the incident has happen.

herpderp 2013-01-23 13:54

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
None of them is secure. No software is secure, especially if it has been developed so fast.

Dave999 2013-01-23 14:07

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1316959)
None of them is secure. No software is secure, especially if it has been developed so fast.

That is true and I think the companies behind the Oses must communicate that to the average Joe! They must be forced to take their responsibility and more proactive rather than reactive.

it's not total security I'm looking for but increase the awareness and improving the security.

If a company is compromised on the level that affect the public users they have to admit(forced by law if necessary) it publicly and the extent of the breach. This would be a great first step world wide!

anthonie 2013-01-23 14:20

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
Secure products, especially mass produced products are products of fiction.

Security always has it's limitations and generally speaking one could say that the people working hard on making secure systems are always one step behind on those who try and find holes in them.

Also I do tend to believe that further simplification of the multiuser/single-user paradigm is prone to increase the amount of insecurity.

/cliche
/kicking_open_doors

switch-hitter 2013-01-23 14:47

Re: What ecosystem is the most secure?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1316952)
Androids permission is a joke.

How so?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1316952)
User still not understand what they mean and when they sees them the first time they have already clicked twice and will likely to click again without thinking twice about it.

They're stated in Google Play before you've even downloaded the app, again during installation and you can check them even after you've installed the app. If the user doesn't know what they mean they should RTFM!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1316952)
Apple has some restrictions, YES but google is wide open they just recently admit that there was a problem, before that they are in total denial.

Would you prefer Google to be more like Apple where they retain control of your device? They decide what you are and aren't allowed to do, what you can and can't install?

80ll0ck5 to that!


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