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sicofante 2013-03-30 18:32

WiFi and 3G on demand
 
I don't have an N9 but I'm still considering it.

I'm on a Nokia E52 which is a great phone. It has a feature I can't find anywhere else: my data radios stay off until they're needed. If I open a web browser, the OS will search for connections in a given order (I decide that order) which includes several known WiFi access points as well as 3G data connection. This helps the E52 achieving its outstanding battery life.

I understand, "always on" is a must for "push" people, but I'm a "pull" type of guy.

Now to the point: it's nigh on impossible to make an Android phone behave like this. Android seems designed for "push" people so "always on" is a must. Of course that drains the battery, but such is life, they say. I don't know about iOS, but I'm not interested in Apple's limited offer and walled garden. Not interested in WP either. So my question is: can N9's Meego behave like old Symbian regarding this? Can it be set to connect to data networks (WiFi or 3G) on demand? Or has it been designed with the "always on" mentality?

Thanks for any help.

Silwer 2013-03-30 19:35

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
It is more like always on. However, that is ok as you will be using your n9 quite differently when compared to average e52 usage. You will just get use to charge your phone every night.

sicofante 2013-03-30 19:59

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
Actually I don't want it always on and no, I'm not going to use it any differently from my E52: I'll check my mail when I want to and browse the web when I want to. "Push" behaviour will be strictly restricted to incoming calls and SMSs (and even those are silenced and checked at some point I decide). I'm not a social networker neither fancy wazzap-like apps. I cherish my privacy and managing my own time.

I don't care about the defaults. I only want to know if the N9 can be made to work "on demand" vs "always on".

qwazix 2013-03-30 20:29

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
When you have your N9 on power saving, it turns off wifi/3g when not needed. You can also set all connections to manually selected instead of automatically used and disconnect after you are done. The phone won't connect again automatically. (however if an app that requires connection is open it will annoy the hell out of you with a modal connection popup)

Also it might be possible that the auto-disconnect program for N900 can be adapted for N9.

The thing you will certainly not find (coming from Symbian) is to be able to choose different access point for each app, and set autoconnection settings per app.

Edit: there are some apps that allow quick toggling of connections from status bar or menu, you may find them useful.

peterleinchen 2013-03-30 20:42

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
I think qwazix already summed it up.
Just wanted to point ou that this
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1333077)
You can also set all connections to manually selected instead of automatically used and disconnect after you are done. The phone won't connect again automatically.

is what you are looking for.
But this
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1333077)
The phone won't connect again automatically. (however if an app that requires connection is open it will annoy the hell out of you with a modal connection popup)

is its disadvantage.

And of course you will miss the Symbian features, but will love the "openess" of MeeGo ;)

sicofante 2013-03-30 21:24

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
Nobody has tried to implement on demand connection? Is it possible at all or will the system impede it? Why would I want my device being connected when I'm not using the internet in any way and I DON'T want the internet to bother me with any push info?

qwazix 2013-03-30 21:37

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
quoting from the help file of the N9 for the setting

Allow background connections
Mobile data connection and WLAN
Quote:

To help save data costs, you can set your phone to close the mobile data connection when you don't need it. If you deactivate background connections the internet connection is active only when you, for example, select a web link. Your phone does not activate the connection automatically, for example, to check for new mail.

sicofante 2013-03-31 03:36

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
I guess that's good enough. Does it work with both WiFi and 3G or are those separate concepts?

bibek 2013-03-31 04:09

Ye, for both 3G and WiFi.

If you have not set up any push app, the connection will auto disconnect.
But then, I wud like to warn you that since PR 1.3 update, auto disconnect doesn't work properly.

With clean device, it worked for few days, but as I went on installing apps and setting up push services, the auto disconnect wud work only once after toggling net connection each time.

Ofcrse you can turn on power saver mode, then it always auto disconnects faithfully. Not sure if there's a tweak to control brightness manually in psm, then I won't mind keeping psm on always.

thedead1440 2013-03-31 04:46

Re: WiFi and 3G on demand
 
bibek,

IIRC using sys-ui tweak brightness bar you can adjust it even in PSM...


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