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[solved] CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Hello,
I just installed CSSU Stable and now I can't activate/add any repositories. Is that normal behavior? I want to intall Open Mediaplayer from devel, but neither HAM/fapman catalogues nor the hildon-application-manager.list do have any affect on the available packages, even though I added the repos there. I couldn't find any on that in the wiki or the forum.
Also, I still have about 150 MB left for application memory, but I can't install anything anymore, getting the "not enough space in application install memory [...]" message. How can that be? I don't want to unnnecessarily move stuff from rootfs, so what exactly is the reason for this? By the way, is the application memory the same as rootfs?

Any help is appreciated, thank you in advance.
Have a nice weekend!

PS: This is my firt post here, but I did log in a few times before. There wasn't a time where I had a secure connection (aka SSL/TLS) so am I right assuming that just doesn't exit? If so, why is this?

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Sounds like a typical case of installing extras-devel software. Some of the stuff there is not optified and bound to leave you in a mess.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel
http://wiki.maemo.org/Opt_Problem
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...opt_and_MyDocs

rootfs is not the same as "application memory" however upto 0.3MB of rootfs is allowed to be used in stable packages.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing...klist#Blockers

First start by removing some packages you don't need hopefully this will free up the device enough to get HAM working again.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space

You can see your root space with

Code:

df -h /

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Hello sixwheeledbeast, thank you for your answers.
I did not install any software form devel so far, I flashed the device (COMBINED) before, so it was a complete new system. Everything installed is from extras. I installed the CSSU first, then all of the applications (using fapman) in one go. After this I now cannot install anything else.
I have 72.3 MB left on my rootfs, which is about 32 %.

Now, what I forgot to mention, I allready tried to free up some space, after the instrcutions in the wiki page you linked.

Code:

apt-get autoremove

gave me an error message (multiple times), which I stupidly did not save, but now it doesn't happen anymore.

Maybe some additional info that might be helpful:
I did tinker with the sources, I had a little script, which changed the content of

Code:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list

depending on my location (I have an aptmirrored copy of the repos at home). However, it only changed the source for "extras" and "ovi".
Writing this, it just comes to my mind that this might be a permissions error(?) as the script was using sudo to write to the file. I can see my entries in the application managers, but I can't delete them. Says "unable to edit catalogue".
Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you :)

[edit:] spellchecking and specify

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

I'll be damned!
I just tried it again to reproduce some error messages, and now it worked. I wrote an extras-devel entry in

Code:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager

and fapman took it (via "import HAM [...]" ) and was able to use it. I just installed open-mediaplayer and no error message...
Now, can anyone explain this? :confused:
Totally not understanding this.
Anyways, thank you again sixwheeledbeast for your help, I really appreciate it.

I have to go now, but as soon as I am home I will check if I can install some updates, which did not work previously either and post the results.

I wish everyone a pleasant weekend, though I'm still totally confused over this.

PS: What about the https, is that just my fault, or is there really none? I created such a nice password...

[edit:] I still can't change the entries in the apllication-managers.

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Both application manager use their own way to handle repository details, that do not comply to standard apt-get behaviour.
If you edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager manually, you should not start HAM, because it would overwrite the file by default. If you immediately import so-called 'HAM settings' in FAM, you are good to go because FAM will import actually from named file, not really from that dubious HAM XML-file /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues

Please try to copy and paste this

Code:

<catalogue>

  <uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/</uri>

  <dist>fremantle</dist>

  <components>free non-free</components>

  <name>Maemo Extras-Devel</name>

 </catalogue>

into /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues .
Hope it helps.

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1433368)

Both application manager use their own way to handle repository details, that do not comply to standard apt-get behaviour.

This seems to be the case on a lot of things... I am always tempted to assume most stuff works like I'm used to it frome Debian & Ubuntu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1433368)

If you edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager manually, you should not start HAM, because it would overwrite the file by default. If you immediately import so-called 'HAM settings' in FAM, you are good to go because FAM will import actually from named file, not really from that dubious HAM XML-file /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues

Thank you for making that clear (though I'm wondering why there is the need for such a behavior).

Out of curiosity, when I opened /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues, none of the existing entries used the tags you used in your template, but rather just a <file> and an <id> one. I think I found the referenced files in

Code:

/usr/share/hildon-application-manager/catalogues

Is there any difference/advantage for my case in putting the info there and then just point to it in the xml file?

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1433368)

Hope it helps.

It did a lot! Works fine now.
Thank you, I really appreciate your help.

[edit]: (How) can I mark this as solved?

Re: CSSU and devel-repo / space in app memory

Quote:

Originally Posted by 009 (Post 1433417)

[edit]: (How) can I mark this as solved?

Edit the first post and change the thread title. The most common way is adding "[Solved]" at the beginning.