wahey nice tips on the commands there torpedo :-) so if i want system files i will have to become sudo gainroot i would them cd (jump/move) to the folder where the file is i would then type mv filename/where/i/want/file/to/go --- just demo obvously has to be folder path structure :-) what about copying a file instead of moving it , is that cp or something simmilar ill take a look into the file managers and also all about ssh etc cor ive got alot to learn coming from symbian :-) lucky you guys are aroound to point me in the right direction :-) ps was looking here at linux commands http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm any others worth reading :-)