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Estel
2011-05-12 , 04:57
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Hey, that simple threat becomes very interesting battery knowledge source!
Most of
ndi
post is very useful for me, but I think that
shadowjk
got a point here. If you let the phone charge overnight, in fact it is just charged to full in few hours, then discharged to 95%, then charged again to 100, etc... It's true that RGB diode is green all the time, also battery-eye show it as "full" part of cycle. Unfortunately, N900 doesn't use power directly from charger when plugged - it just use the battery, charging in the same time. When battery reaches "full", power is cut off until battery drop to 95% or so. You can easily monitor it with bq27200 kernel-power module, by:
cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/
current_now
...when plugged in, you got value under 0 (for example, "-2475") which is exactly (charge current)-(current used by phone to "live"). When battery reach "full",
current_now
report just positive (i.e used actually) current - exactly the same as if plug is disconnected = non charging.
So, that would mean You got 10-20 cycles every night...
Also, after short logic check i totally disagree with Your calculations about powercycle drain. Precisely, your calculations are correct, but upside down - it is not 180W in couple of seconds, but 0.180W = 180mW!
Look
ndi
. N900 battery rounded up got
5Wh
- You're right at that. It's capable to safe deliver for our needs
1315 mA
constant current
@ 3.8V
(rounded from
3.3V-4.2V
, doesn't matter for our calculations) for time of
1 hour
. Also, it can deliver
657 mA
constant current for
2 hours
, etc. Every fluctuation of current change total time, but after
C
(current)*
V
(voltage)=5
W
or higher, battery is already at 3.3V and is discharged, aka "dead".
Then, if we want to calculate how much power could be drained if powercycle would use 3% of battery capacity, we need to keep in mind that
W
h =
C
h*
V
, so
(Wh = Ch*V)
/
h
->
W=C*V
- we need to divide by
h
, not multiply by
h
as you did.
Using known values, we want to get
3%
power during, lets say,
15 seconds
of bootup - it is
W
*
3
/
100
=
C
*
V
,
V
is constant four our calculation (
3.8V
),
W
after /
h
is just
5
.
5
*
3/100
=
0.15
.
We want
C
(current), so
C
=
W
/
V
(or, if you prefer that,
C
h=
W
h/
V
, doesn't matter at all for us now), we get
0.039=0.15/3.8
. Our 0.039 is in
A
, so it is
39mA
. When we don't use /
h
, we get 3% of battery power =
39mAh
. If You want to check for mistakes, 39mAh *33.33 = 1299.87 mAh - thats our 1315 mAh capacity
rounded down.
@
3.8V
it is
5W
h.
So, we already know and proofed (if anyone understand my not so self-explanatory calculations
), that
3%
of battery power is
150 mW
(yea, it's logical, but we wanted hard proofs, doesn't we?).
10%
, then, is
500 mW
,
10%
battery capacity use is just
500mW
. No need for blue smoke and other things.
---
Also, if we treat serious Your calculations about
10%
beign
180W
, that would mean we got 1800W at 100% - real beast. That would allow us for powering up high-power driller for an hour, just using our little battery, no need for wall plug
I got nothing against that idea, but for now we must be happy with 5W thing...
I tried to explain calculations as easy as it can be, but I'm again after sleepless night, so sorry for any hard to understand shortcuts. We can pull here dr_frost from "3000mAh battery mod" thread, he use high
W
batteries in his RC machines, so maybe he will be able to explain it more user-friendly
Last edited by Estel; 2011-05-12 at
05:11
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