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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Clearly, we don't agree on how to interpret this information and the validity of these comparisons. I'm simply taking the interpretation that many in the industry are interpreting from the longstanding history of these lines of products. Trying to re-re-interpret the data doesn't seem to make a difference in this case. Windows Phone 7 is a failing platform by any standard--even comparing it to Android's earliest forays with the G1 and Apple's first forays into the 1st gen iPhone and even RIM's first blackberries.

Granted, as you admit yourself, Nokia never could understand how to penetrate the American market. The problem for Nokia now is that the American market is easily making in-roads to the markets that Nokia used to understand. It would seem that Nokia's niche markets are becoming far less loyal to Nokia than they expected and the less-than-enthuastic roll-outs are making it that much easier for others to come in and win the loyalty over to their brands.

Arguing that your fiancee dumped an iPhone for an N8, by the way... classy debate kills, lad! Classy! Ever heard of "anecdotal evidence?" I'm sure she's no the only, nor the last, to do that but based on these numbers she's far and away in a statistic minority.

Putting these two together isn't really a winning combination.
On the fiancee point, i was referring directly to Nokia's lack of advertising - she's American, where anything not Android or iPhone is not a smartphone, Nokia are considered dumb phones that do nothing. All of a sudden she's got a phone with widgets, social integration, FM transmitter, bluetooth transfers, HDMI, USB OTG and so on. I've been visiting here for 6 months and literally have met no one who knows Nokia do this, or have heard of an FM transmitter. Now, can you imagine Apple having features no other device has and not telling people? No.

Sure, WP7 isn't doing well, i'm not arguing that. What i am arguing is that it's far too early to say that low sales now mean it won't succeed. It's the new kid on the block, many people are tied into contracts, many are waiting for updates and so on. When Android first came out people didn't have such high expectations of a phone. When BB came out it was popular for its impressive emails. To enter the smartphone arena now when people already have good emails and other great software features is never going to be an instant hit like it was 5 years ago.
 

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