1st, apologies if i included you in the "kiddo bunch". haven't seen such a structured post for i don't know how many pages CEO being Stefan Elop, yes, i'm sure he is (he doesn't care that much about MeeGo, does he?) i guess you didn't go thru the whole post i referred to, so i'll explicit: Rich Green (that's from another video i picked up on this thread, actually) has a weekly meeting w/ the MeeGo team. even though he is not going to tell us all the nasty little details, but he explicitly said: «we do plan to ship a device from our MeeGo program some time this year and i think it is critically important to deliver that and to get the feedback from that [...]» the next part is a little odd «[...]as we evaluate the feedback from MeeGo » but considering that his sentences are a little less streamlined in that interview, maybe he meant about? anyway, doesn't sound like "we are going to analyse the feedback from MeeGo and based on that prepare our consumer device" does it? i'm a hacker at my hours, but most of the time i leave it to a script to "automate" things a little, thus, no, if the phone came w/ MeeGo 1.1 for mobile phone, i wouldn't want it, neither. then again, dixit Richt Green... «[...] it is beautiful and elegant and the hardware is interesting and the software is powerful [...]» does that sound like MeeGo 1.1 ? then, there is Maemo.org, the community behind Maemo (and hopefully MeeGo when it comes out on a "productive" device?) even if the powerful software is only as basic as Maemo 5 on the N900, i'll wait for Maemo.org or MeeGo to fill in the gaps. i'll get one ¦-) w/ keyboard. like i said before, if RM-680 wasn't FCC.ed for MeeGo Conf...