@misterc youll never convince them, they latch onto anything and throw a sissyfit when the "specs" dont match reality ... omg nokia hates us ... to those that have NDAs its better to stfu than to win a msg board war. @k123 i dont even, the easiest thing to do is say nothing, dont even register ... i dont concede to your point. youve turned to semantics and will defend yourself based on those semantics ... dev/consumer in the end youll fit your posts to w.e nokia drops. again, fcc is waaaaaaaaaaay stronger than anything you can type. its tangible everything else is fodder. wait and see, sometimes the sonogram is wrong