thank you for giving me a 2nd chance.
appreciate that.
and i think there is nothing wrong with giving your (personal) opinion and is all we can (all) do until there is the official presentation.
maybe it is also important to clearly state that it is an opinion (and what it is based upon).

even though the collaboration w/ m$ may be interpreted as a desperate struggle by NOKIA to save itself, i think NOKIA is far from that desperate. even though the times where Symbian (smart) phones were outselling all other smart phones on the market are gone, Symbian devices are still selling well and the N8 has sold 4 million units (still counting). of course it doesn't compare to the numbers of a iDevice, but iPotatos only has one or two devices selling (one being the former top model waiting to be retired as a cheaper alternative to the top dog).
so the sales of that device better be astounding.
not so Symbian.
if every Symbian phone NOKIA is selling this year sells only 2 or 3 million units... even though manufacturing 15 to 20 different devices obvioulsy is more expensive then manufacturing two and NOKIA's margins are certainly tighter then iPotatos' but still, i'm sure NOKIA is still earning money w/ every Symbian device they sell

long story short
(sorry, like i said, i try to explain how & why i come to conclusion to avoid flame wars about sources & all)
even though it is important and about time a MeeGo device @ least starts covering its cost, i think NOKIA can still afford to invest in MeeGo.
direct comparison w/ iPotatos devices (no kbd, thus) makes sense, but NOKIA always had power user phones (9000 & 92x0, E90 and finally E7) and maybe that's who they also target with MeeGo devices (apart from us geeks, of course )? (IDEA ONLY, NO PROOF, FOOD FOR THOUGHTS)
anyway, can't help feeling MeeGo isn't ready yet to be a hype device.

i don't make this up as i go (i already referred to 9000s & E90 & all) in a couple posts before) but chatting here makes me evolve too.

i'm still hopeful we'll get a keyboard device before the end of the year and maybe the touch screen dev. Koajwujwer123 had for a few days is next years model? if this year's model sells well.
or vice versa ¦:-}
or who knows?

we'll have to wait i guess

PS: quick update about S.Elop; no, of course, he probably is far less a fan boy of MeeGo then of W devices, but i think he realizes he is not working for m$ any more and has to accept that NOKIA isn't going to place all its eggs in one basket, thus has to accept that NOKIA
- goes on selling Symbian phones until W devices are established
- keeps an option open for an alternative. so far, m$ has f###ed up big time in the mobile phone market