maemo.org - Talk - View Single Post - PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

demolition	2011-05-30 , 17:19
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw

... I have to say it's frequently maemo's middleware that's our problem. [...] what's missing are the interfaces to the higher levels,
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@stskeeps: how about inofficial out-of-major-release-turn bugfixes of single binaries then? Esp if they have a clearly traced down bug,[...]
How about stupid plain header files [...] No responsibility whatsoever for Nokia. Community will cheer.
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Anyway thanks for bringing a bit of sense to this debate.
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don't you think this would help a lot to feed us with some common sense about what's really up, and thus would help avoiding a lot of the high temperature that's arising from those issues seemingly getting completely ignored?

cheers
/jOERG

This seems sensible and dicussable. There's no massive grab for the whole lot, just a means to fix what doesn't work and extend what does, while the platform is still alive.

Originally Posted by Stskeeps

Regarding binaries, I suggested something similar in the past and I think it might actually be possible to do without big hassle. But it requires someone doing the work and I'm not personally one to do it. Hardware support stuff, maybe, but GTK+/Hildon, no.

I'm trying to be informative about this process but people seem to overlook any blog post, tmo post or wiki post done about this.

On matters like this there are a lot of posts to look at so some of us are likely to miss bits (large chunks sometimes), apologies all the same.

Thank you for previous endeavours. Did you get a clear answer of what might be permissible? As far as who attends to this, well, if your ISP goes on te blink, you don't ask the nice chap down the road if you can have his monthly bndwidth; no, you contact the ISP and get them to reconnect and refund for the lost days. As kind as you might be, no one is suggesting you should do this (or anyone who isn't paid by Nokia for the task at had).
We have all paid, or are still paying, for our devices so the onus is on the manufacturer: Nokia.

Apologies if you object to my précis-ing. Just trying to trim the post!

Re: the request being polled for, can anyone clarify what the extent of Maemo is so we roughly know what the vote is for? Nokia could quite easily say something like "you've got it already," if it's not set out very clearly.

Re: releases of code to date, can anyone (apart from joerg_rw) confirm that items that the Maemo team (council?) have requested for some time and would really help with OS fixes/extensions has been provided to the Meego team?

Re: action following a "no" from a request to Nokia (& partners), it's not just GPL etc. that might be up for debate (I don't know enough to confirm one way or the other), it's the functional discrepency between advertised and actual performance, which would be of contention.

I am concerned about the number of bugs which are in the camp "oh it'll be sorted for Harmattan" (or Meego). What about areas which end up going in a different direction so fixes can't work on the N900, for example incompatible hardware or drivers?

In this vein, I'm very worried about the treatment of the N900/M5, if the N[?ever]/M6 device arrives. I'm surprised there isn't a thread called something like "Maemo6: shrug or hug?".

- can anyone alay these worries with M6?

Last edited by demolition; 2011-05-30 at 17:43.