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Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Thanks for the video.

Well it was obvious the powerhouse 540 had a lot of kick, but this is untapped potential in the Galaxy S devices (inclusing Galaxy Tab).
I think the Mali 400 is a fourway segmhented gpu (not a true quadcore) and due to its underclocking its only as powerful as the GeForce ULP (72something) found in the Nvidia T20 "Tegra2".

And we already know the SGX540 is slightly more powerful than the gpu in the Tegra2, so it really is a "current gen" gpu. I'd really like to see games like this enter the Android Market (not TegraZone), especially holding my fingers crossed for the Dreamcast emulator (if written in C++/OGLES2 ... should run decently on SGS/SGTab).

That presentation makes a mockery of Tegra "Kal-El" demonstration which is pushed fairly hard (>65%) and is supposedly x100 the performance of Tegra2... seems like only triple the performance to me.
The marketing material it specifically lists Mali400MP as being scalable to up to 4 'cores'. I also recall reading that the GSII has the full 4, in the Exynos 4210 package. Regardless, in recent tests, Mali400MP blows the T20 GeForce ULP out of the water, in geometry, fill rate, and shaders. It is an impressive performer and one to be revered.

I have no doubt that the T30 will compete favourably with the Exynos 4210, thanks to the 4 CPU cores and added pipelines (12 cores in all, I believe), but the Mali 400 has a few tricks up its sleeve, that begin and end with tile rendering which greatly reduce memory bandwidth and overdraw. I believe that the Mali400 will be able to hold its own against the T30 GPU onslaught.

As an aside: The next GLBenchmark test 3.0 will render to an offscreen buffer, which means that we will get a taste of GPU performance that is not distorted by the screen that it is displayed on. A much more accurate comparison.

I think that NVidia's tegra has a great marketing campaign. Tegra is becoming a house hold name, and users (like yourself) are demanding it in their devices, but the SoC has yet to prove itself the clear performance champ.

That said, I have great faith in Nvidia and their aggressive iterative style, and have expectation that they will eventually take the lead.

But I agree, even the SGX540 hasn't seen its true potential, nor other SoCs, and without appealing these strengths to developers they will go untapped; developers will stick to the lowest-common-denominator, rather than maxing out these dormant beasts. They need to get their eyes off of engineering schematics and on to their customers.

Case in point: find me two demos of the Mali400MP GPU....

Apple pushes the A5's strengths, NVidia does the same for the Tegra, even Qualcomm is boasting about the very powerful Adreno, but Mali400 is a spec sheet on a single web-page.