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All you people type to much. Don't you take holidays?


Originally Posted by wmarone View Post

You've just done the same thing. You've said "It can't ever be good" but not given any reasons.
I said no such thing. I said it is currently not stable enough to replace Maemo. Even the presenter, giving the keynote demo, said as much. It just not ready for a daily use phone, it's a developer platform. Until very shortly before the conference it wasn't even able to make a phone call. (Thus the applause when it did.) Sorry, but that's not screaming "working polished ready for use system" to me.

Asking people to hope that they'll finish and semi-polish a developer platform for a 2 year old device that already has a stable, highly polished system available right now seems kind of ridiculous. If this were a FreeRunner of a Neo1973, maybe that would make sense, since the base system there wasn't even functional.

Again, I'm not saying don't do it. I'm not saying It will "never be good". I'm saying that right now, it's not something a regular person can switch to, and I frankly doubt it will get there given the conditions and time frame it's taken to get to where it's at now.

Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
It's certainly more possible than getting the last closed bits out of Nokia.
Is it? Maybe. But even in MeeGo there are many "closed modules" still that have NDA code restrictions and are released as binary blobs. How is that at all different than Maemo?

In the end, I wish the MeeGo project well, but if I had to place a bet one way or the other, the odds are against them. Relying on the platform taking off enough to be anything beyond a developers toy is a pie-in-the-sky dream. Dream it if you like, but I doubt it will ever get close to what we already have.

But let's imagine for a moment you're right. It gets polished up in the next month, solidifies into a rock solid platform, and an EZ-installer is made that flashes the OS onto the N900 while retaining all your data and updating your apps to work in an emulation shell, all whilst playing a cute song. Then what? What does that gain us? Key bits are still closed. Do we get a "plethora of apps"? Form where? Nobody is developing for MeeGo right now, and the few that are are targeting non-ARM devices since the N900 is currently the only ARM based platform. Even if there are companies out there making things in the magical "QT" that crosses everything, the QT compatibility for MeeGo is still pretty poor. (Not to mention the QT "standard" has been shifting more than a trucker driving through Appalachia.)

Again I ask, what's the harm in a renewed ask? Or maybe (as others have suggested) using another channel to ask for key bits the CSSU team needs (like hal_bme_plugin or what not)?
 

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