ok, youll have to let me know what sort of imaginary line that ive crossed? ive been respectful, although repeatedly denied the same respect/restraint that ive shown. never called anyone any names, i wasnt rude, i merely pointed out contradictions/discrepancies. if you have a problem with dissent, then theres nothing i can do for you. you need to learn from it and move forward. denigrating my post as gabble, and not substantiating that gabble in anyway is offensive and i feel just the same about your post, but i will not attack you at the behest of someone else, who if they did have the credibility wouldnt need to have someone else defend their position.

if he gave you hints before fine, continue to ride. i just wont, theres nothing IN THIS THREAD that he has provided as accurate/verifiable information. everything said is contrary to what we have AS FACTS.

thank you for reducing me to a hormone addled human, i appreciate that, its ironic that you dont even take your own advice and expect me to.

i dont agree with him, i dont agree with how/why he spread falsehoods (by his own admission).

i take it youve read nothing ive written because my point isnt to disprove him, only to allow some pause before he posts rumors. the thing is that i just want everyone to wait and see, thats what ive been saying for the start, but everyone is so starved for information that they cling on the slightest of whispers, its not good for expectations. im trying to remain balanced but some constituents here cannot see that.

patience