men, keep cool... look shady, you have your facts and we have ours. you talk about real things, but the latest real thing (elop showing the device for seconds) is something that you still dont believe because it doesnt fit to your demands... so you are doing the same thing you are telling us that we do... so, just let us hope, dream, discuss our next phone... and dont make that bad vibrations anymore please... first we had misterc, now we have you... we have understood both of you, but that (our device) is what we want to talk about, thats it.