i would like to take this time to apologize to the thread, as frustrated as i am/was i should not have taken it out so viscerally in this thread. i can also thank K123 and Zehjoktah for trying to provide information about the upcoming device. I have seen it, K123 was kind enough to allow me a quick glance, its as gorgeous as dsm said it was, and is in light of the lack of a new iphone something to behold. as many here are aware, and may feel the sameway about a HWKB device, this VKB device will def shine a huge bright light on meego/harm ... aestheitcally pleasing. very surprising that the N8 is what it is, if this can exist in the same portfolio ... again, my humblest apoligies to K123 Zeh and anyone else in the thread for such vitriol.