Thread: Should MeeGo developers continue to publish info on this forum for maemo users (wrt Nokia device support)?
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attila77 is offline attila77
2011-06-14 , 21:27
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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
Because it always is. Governance, by it's very definition, is something granted temporarily by a power the controls a resource,
Can you share a source for definition ? I understood governance simply to be the process of governing, might be based on owhenship, license, blood, whatever. AFAIK There is nothing *implied* about it's temporal character. Now, the resource control is a tricky business in software, esp. most open licenses like GPL, because while copyrights will allow you to change licenses and governance models, you cannot change them reatroactively. In plain English, if you go back to closed, if your project was actually truly being worked on/contributed to, you just created a fork (coincidentally, this is the danger Android faces ATM). Qt is actually an interesting example as one of the changes was that authors do NOT need to transfer copyrights (thereby insuring that Nokia or whoever cannot 'steal' their code and backpedal into the haze of proprietary development with it).

I find irony in the fact that you defend the use of the term "open source" on a distro that contains closed source, but then go on to argue pedantically that:
Yeah, them smileys, they don't make them as they used to

Technically,yes. The same could be said of Android, could it not? Since it uses the same OS, a Linux based kernel with a few custom drivers? Yes, in a puristic sense, they're all distros.
Nope, that's actually pretty wrong, from a purist standpoint both Maemo and MeeGo are GNU/Linux, while Android is just Linux (no glibc et al). Now, a kernel does *not* an OS make }

I'd love to, but I lack the will to bother. I'm pretty sure I'm right on that one though. Just go check out the MeeGo bug tracker yourself. Many of the bugs still open revolve around hardware drivers.
I would assert that due to the UX-es being developed behind closed doors and app/framework bugs (say, Qt) often filed in upstream bugtrackers it's perfectly natural that you see a lot of low level bugs in the MeeGo bugtracker. Add to this the effect that currently the people working on it are not end-users but people who work with the low level stuff... I wasn't lazy and checked - Maemo Core has 285 bugs filed against it, while just browser+email+IM has over 1700 bugs filed against them (and Maemo userspace has a lot more stuff than just those three applications).


Again, I'm not claiming one distro is better than another, or that one model of governance is superior.
Oh yes you did ! :P

An open governance, more open than any other is better than the alternatives.
That I think we can agree on. But governance itself is not a substitute for actual code. Compared to iOS, or Android, or even what's left of the council here, MeeGo does win in that regard.
I was simply pointing out that governance is less important, because the terms can be changed on the whim of the group that controls the resource.
That is quite a bit stretching it. In that context open source itself is not important (because it became or can stop being open source on somebody's whim).
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