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Originally Posted by uppercase View Post
Well I don't know what a csv file is (comma seperated ? electronic sheet ?) but when you double click it on your desktop your distro should know. And if your phone is as complete as a 100Mb livecd then you don't need an ecosystem in this case.
Then there is a huge gap between what kind of user I am and what kind of user you are.

I'm an application (web, mobile, desktop) developer first and foremost. I've gone from: C, C++, Visual C, Visual Basic, Visual Basic .NET, C#, AS3 (Adobe Flex), Adobe AIR, and currently using Application Inventor (Android) and using Adobe Flash Builder 4.51 for iOS, Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. I develop things, thus my need professionally and personally are different than a person that needs to just view, peruse, edit and partake of content on the Internet.

If you fail to see that, then I have nothing else to state about that honestly. We're different users and a LiveCD will only get me so far. It's served you well, it seems. Congrats.

So with that alone, I need a lot more than your 100mb LiveCD. Your LiveCD only gives you the ability to peruse what others make. You can compile some C (I think GCC Compiler is standard on those LiveCD's) but you'd have to install everything I just mentioned in one way or another.

That is why I asked you before what ecosystem does your desktop have, because desktop computers don't need ecosystem.
Netflix is an example. Sure, you could "find" videos out there - and they are out there - or you could purchase from a store, rip it to something usable for mobile devices using Handbrake and call it a day. Zune/Comes With Music/iTunes/Napster (last iteration, not the first version) all require an "ecosystem" of sorts to accept payment for online purchased videos and music.

Don't get your music or videos from those locations? Good for you. You still have to go to a store... or "find" it.

Can you present an example where an ecosystem is required on a phone - a phone that can handle anything my 800Mhz PIII 392Mb ram desktop can handle ?
Last I checked, comparing a desktop to a mobile was never my intention. In fact, I find it too full of folly to continue down that path.

Now, here's a slight pet peeve of mine. I totally dislike answering more questions than I get answered. So let's start out with something simple.

What's your point? Where do you get your music/videos/software? Do you just peruse the Internet or do you actually partake of anything that's out there? Did you use Ovi? Have you used any content delivery system that was not a RSS Reader? Have you ever purchased anything online via an App Store?

You see... with that, I'd know better to whom I'm addressing anything. And to continue to bring up something about your love for LiveCD's, well it's not a path that honestly I'll continue down because I don't do LiveCD's. I keep one around (Knoppix) in case one of my idiotic friends gets a virus or locks themself out (I do also use ERD Commander).

I've purchased music online in all of the aforementioned music content delivery systems. That's an ecosystem. I also have 900 CD's that I've purchased over the years. That's not an ecosystem. I develop software. I've had to publish that software via Android Market, Amazon's Android Market, iOS iTunes Store and BlackBerry's App Market... and learning how to publish to Intel's AppUp Market. Guess what... those things are all ecosystems.

And if you have an N900 or prior, the repositories are basically an ecosystem that supports the developers that populate them with the apps you like on that platform. And if you install anything from online sources... that's either an ecosystem (app store) or framework (yum, apt-get, rpm) that allows for ease of installation that supports the customer.

In fact, it's gotten to the point of where the (oft used incorrectly term) ecosystem means a delivery method of content to the user. That includes applications - you have installed something, right? - that do not come from CD's/DVD's/thumb drives/Cyber Jesus. And it definitely includes anything else I've mentioned above.

So... yeah. Not seeing your point. Answer the above or continue spouting out how you love your LiveCD. I'm sure somebody else will enjoy those stories. But to not understand from any other perspective what an ecosystem is and might be by definition to a consumer is either ignorance or goading. I'm not sure, so I'm stopping here.

I also list wasting my time as a pet peeve.

Bis dann...
 

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