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2011-07-07 , 21:46
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
Heres the low down - you keep showelling your diasagreements on Nokia's direction and its devices since the N800 on all of us. Now while I may agree with some of your points, I dont keep spewing mya disagreements on and on and on - its just gets boring - even to myself. (So I dont know how you like hearing yourself spewing the same old points time and again).
Don't you worry your precious little head about it--eventually, it'll stop. Eventually, it'll all stop and go silent at this rate.



Originally Posted by NOMOS View Post
Nokia has a longer development cycle for Maemo because they need to do all of the work, where for Android oftentimes the hardware adaptation is in part already done by chipset vendors. Nokia had no intention of under speccing the N9. In this case the software was not ready, which is why the device got delayed. Would it have launched 6 months earlier, the CPU spec would be on par. don't start that BS about Harmattan being Maemo in essence so they should be quicker. Obviously the failed marriage with Intel also delayed the development.

Symbian is a different story, because there the very long development cycles Nokia used to have are compounded with the intent of capitalizing on the fact Symbian is an efficient OS by using slower CPU.s etc.

The real question here is, are we really happy with a spec pissing contest? The entire Android game is a spec pissing contest in part because without a monster cpu, android has a very laggy UI. OEM have no way of differentiating outside hyping Ghz numbers. Should this not really be about quality? Usability? Image quality? Audio quality, reception, battery life, quality of the UI, how well something multitasks, is it able to be used with one hand, etc etc.

Rant: Are Samsung LG and HTC not really the Asus of the smartphone world. Where is the innovation or added value there? The UI skins they make blow. Is it not a sad state of affairs to see Android become the windows of smartphones and destroy diversity?
Oh whew! That's a relief! So it's finally running MeeGo, then? I find the rest of your arguments baseless. I don't find the UI laggy or slow and I find it to be efficient enough to run exquisitely even on my old Motorola Droid. That's sufficiently efficient enough for an old device, more than efficient enough for new devices. As for the innovations, plenty of it is in developing the HARDWARE--where HARDWARE manufacturers should be concentrating while SOFTWARE developers at Google and in the cmmunity develop SOFTWARE. Seems pretty common-sense.

Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
Yeah, its portable computer - who says its a "desktop in your pocket" ?

Why do you conflate the two terms - computing with desktop ?

Maybe its just years of using a desktop that is the reason we cant think in a new way and use the old blinders to see new paradigms ?
Again I dont know - but that not how I see it.

And Gerbick, I also agree with some of the dissapointments that you and Dan (and myself) share. -but lets look forward, the old dissapointments arent gong to right itself in this changing ecosystem of a mobile world.

What we have to consider is is the new path that Nokia is trying with Meego/Harmattan a sustainable path - a new path indeed - a intuitive and productive path for us ?
Thats the real question.
Not whay did Nokia abandon the N800 path ?
Here's the thing.. whenever people said, 'this SUCKS as a phone', the response was always, 'IT'S A COMPUTER FIRST!' The idea being to distance the device from being a handset phone device and representing more of a desktop computer experience in a handset form factor.

Now you're possibly arguing that it's not a computer and it's just another ME TOO handset form factor? Ponderous, lad. That leads down roads I prefer not to go down. Meanwhile, the INTERNET TABLET form factor that Nokia nearly had in its grasp with the "desktop computing experience" arguments in a portable device are being adopted by everyone else as their phone OS's slowly evolve into more and more functional "desktop computing experience" devices (i.e. Atrix, Transformer, Icona, etc.). I would argue that Nokia WAS heading the way of tablets, but then got caught up in the iPhone/Android ME TOO wars instead of being the leader of the INTERNET TABLETS that they had rightfully forged ahead on long before the others were going there. It's a shame and a wasted opportunity.
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