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Originally Posted by NokTokDaddy View Post
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Nokia were the weaker party, Microsoft the stronger; That's buisiness. Nokia do get value out of the relationship; the ratio does not matter unless you're looking at this from an emotional perspective. Like I said, this is business.
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you seem to have a hard time keeping things apart.
m$ may be dominant in the PC market.
in the mobile phone market... >/nul
granted, you are not the only one making this mistake

in the mobile phone market, even though NOKIA's position is weakened, they are still dwarfing m$ by a long shot.

Originally Posted by NokTokDaddy View Post
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I am not denying that Symbian's market share and stock is falling, but that does not matter to the average individual who goes into the store to buy their next phone. Nokia has a huge following with a corresponding brand loyalty; do not confuse that with the platform or OS.
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Right now he has to keep pushing the WP message. Every new product, every new technology and feature from Nokia must carry the WP message in some way
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why push the wp message if there is such a brand loyality & customers don't care what OS it is running, as long as there is NOKIA standing on it?

you are contradicting yourself in a single post
try keeping them shorter, maybe?

Originally Posted by NokTokDaddy View Post
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Only time will tell. A plan needs time to play out and it's early days yet. We can't call this a good or bad plan until Nokia have had at least a year selling WP devices. To write off any plan this early is an emotional response that is not tempered with reason.
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just because they changed the name from mobile to portable doesn't make it a new product; it is still the same old buggy software that hasn't been able to gain any significant market share in over 10 years. during those 10 years, NOKIA single handedly created the smart phone & had a de facto monopoly 'til the competition got around to it too. but not m$, nope.
and it is not by lack of companies having tried, neither;
two years before NOKIA made this mistake LG entered an "exclusive" agreement w/ m$ according to which LG is still supposed to have 50 (fifty) wm (then) devices in its assortment by 2012;
a couple months ago, LG jumped onto the MeeGo bandwagon. and m$ may deem itself lucky if LG has even only 5 wp devices next year.


bottom line being that the m$ is the winner & NOKIA is losing any chance to survive once wp has confirmed yet again it has no market appeal.
well, considering the "loyality"as you say, respectively, the situation of most dumb phone markets world wide, they may still recover making & selling S40 devices where infrastructure for "smart phones" (3/4G mostly) is simply not available.
 

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