This thread has really turned into a circus, and now danramos the clown has entered as well. But be quiet, don't tell him, he doesn't know it himself.

Can't we just wait and see how these Nokia-WP phones will be? Will they succeed, will they not, it's all speculation. No one knows either way.

But Elop a trojan? far from it. Nokia see him as the one to get the wheels rolling, so Nokia can produce some high end devices. Microsoft see him as "their guy", if for no other reasons than he (and Nokia) is the key to get the wheels on WP rolling. It is a win-win situation.

As I have said before. The first Nokia-WP with HW keyboard is mine. Right now I have a Samsung Wave (bada rox, but 2.0 takes for ever to be released ), I have a N900 that has served me well during the last 1 1/2 year, I have my E6 which probably will be all I need for several years. But things move and changes. Symbian will be gone, WP will take over. It's cool, then I can go all sentimental over the perfect E6 while writing nonsense on TMO on my flashy new WP

I mean lighten up, phones are like women, they come in all colors and shapes, and they all got their charm, and are all enjoyable in their own way. They all need to be touched and tasted There are exceptions though. The iPhone - far from enjoyable as well as most Androids