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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
N900 has traded ability to manipulate page for gray hash. IPhone has traded it for white paper. E7/Symbian in general doesn't. As the review says, it prefers to render first, rather than allow interaction sooner. That's why it's jerky until it's loaded, and that's why it's faster in many cases - it puts all its might behind renderer, grossly ignoring user. Can be frustrating for large pages over poor connection.
Just tell me how much have you seen of that gray hash on the N900 when browsing with PR1.3? I have had to stab the phone 20 times per second and than have it appear, in other words, it's pretty much nonexistent. Both your E7 and your perception must be special. There is no way an E7 browser is faster than MicroB on the N900, unless you spray pixie dust on that ARM11. N900, as I said, renders much faster than the E7 and yet it's still super responsive. Again, tested with both in hand, on the same wifi connection.

Let me put it in your words, I don't give a flying duck what the renderer does on the E7, it hangs like crazy, it's $hit. I'm not gonna wait 2 minutes for a site like Engadget to load in order to still have jerky movement on the browser. Good luck convincing yourself persistently.

Originally Posted by ndi
If you prefer the sacrifice in reverse, Opera Mobile and Opera Mini are both available and render in N900-vividity range, full pages, can swap user-agent, etc. Poorer support for Flash, however, as I understand it.

It's still a choice rather than good versus bad, and it makes it (say what you will) faster, by the definition of faster, not by feel. Which is, it will finish first given equal conditions.
It's a review like you said, so stick to stock vs stock.

Originally Posted by ndi
You can declare whatever you wish as whatever you wish. Both N900 and E7 are better browsers than iPhone, and E7 versus N900 are very different browsers. However, "sucks" is not a benchmark. There's fidelity (N900), speed (E7) and smooth(iP).

There are many a parameter to a browser. And many a site. As a result, things are different for each and tradeoffs exist. That's why browser benchmarks and reviews are 20 pages long. But I suspect you already have a favorite, and the others suck.
Wow, saying the iphone browser is $hit (in a diplomatic way) compared to E7. Keep convincing yourself. Lack of flash lite 4 doesn't make it $hit. It does everything else better than E7, and yet it's smooth as silk.

Since you're a lazy *****, I did the hard job for you.

Nokia X7 vs iPhone 4 IT starts at 9:50

Originally Posted by ndi
This is a review not a court of law. I don't give a flying duck who's fault is what.
You are right. If you are willing to install Opera in order to overcome the browser's incompetence, then you should know the fault and download a youtube client such as QMLtube in order to satisfy your thirst.

Originally Posted by ndi
I was aware at the start of this endeavor that I would find people who'd disagree - I'm surprised it's not a riot, considering the review declares E7 a winner on several fronts - some of which have been the undisputed domain of N900 at some point. This is one of those cases. Have fun disagreeing.
There is disagreeing blindly with the complete article and then there is disagreeing with a certain front in the comparison. I only said I disagree majorly with the browser comparison. You should listen to an objective opinion, by someone who has tested both devices next to each other and made the comparison. Test them yourself and then try to insult an opposing opinion. You have had the N900 before and don't have it now which makes your comparison invalid.

Advice to the wise - Don't make one front a World War.

Last edited by patlak; 2011-07-19 at 00:13.
 

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