>> What possible benefit is there to you the consumer? The same things can be achieved with open standards without trapping your cash! This is one of those "men are from venus and women are from mars" moments. For the upteemth time - consumers dont give a SH1T what about open vs closed. They CANT be in FAVOR of "closed", because they dont know the difference. All else being equal, they will not buy the product with the "CLOSED" sticker rather then the "OPEN" sticker (and vice versa). All they care about is this - they pay X $$$ to get Y if they like Y. They will support companies that give them stuff they want for $$$, REGARDLESS of whether it comes from a CLOSED or OPEN philosophy. Mainstream consumers will NOT actively fight for "Open" as they have enough **** to deal with in their everyday lives without getting into some abstract geeky religious war. Getting mindshare in this day and age is hard enough - trying to get mindshare with an anti-sexy concept like FOSS is like tilting at windmills. I have better things to do with my life. You want to push OPEN ? Start a company that releases products that embody a standard - if you can get these products to really SELL, others will start to follow (accessories, apps whatever) and as the controller of that standard, you can then OPEN it or whatever. All else is empty hot air is whining about the lack of JUUUSSSTICE(tm) in this world.