@abill_uk didn't follow your poll / thread so can't talk about the specifics, but could it be that the thread was also in flame war with lots of insults & low flying arguments? if so, i noticed that the admins seem to have a very low latency for that more generally, but also applicable to this thread, i feel, a lot of those fiery arguments could be avoided if ppl could agree to disagree. of course, that requires above all respect for the other side's point of view. and the willingness to formulate one's opinion in decent words. which is useless if ppl don't want to invest the time to read the post but hit the quick reply button with some non-constructive remark this may also help avoid that arguments become personal and insults start flying, but is of course not of any help with trolls. just my 2 cents have fun EDIT: can i get a receipt for my tax declaration?