it worked thanks a lot coredumb by the way Misterc, close source is a capitalistic attitude to prevent others using the code... just imagine what maemo would have advanced to, if it were open source,if all brains, not only that of Nokia, participated in it. It is like buying a car without a key, I mean, if I buy something I should owe it all, not only a part of it. cheers AbuAkram