But seriously talking it is now very clear why this community does not move forward and it is actually thanks to the likes of ysss and daperl with the way they treat people on here, the main reason i think many have got fed up and left.

We move one step forward then in come the sarcastic crew and push everything back a hundred steps.

Weird thing is though that no one with the authority seems to even see this on here.

I say get rid of the current council and get people in with the qualities much needed to push Maemo.org in the direction it really needs.

I did read though that apparently nobody would come forward to volunteer for the current council and as a result we end up with the dead end we have currently and it really is going nowhere.

If an analysis is done about all the bad posts on this forum, and the people who thank them as that is a dead give away, you will soon begin to realise just why the problems we have are not only here but getting a lot lot worse.

Everything good has now left for the few of us who are genuine in progress have to put up with the likes of ysss and daperl, people like daneel and all the flame war starters who post stupid pictures to get it all going, then the thanks come and before you know it you got .... chaos.

My poll thread will give you some examples of how they hijack and create mayhem and that got closed because of this by chemist.

Do a post search of these members and go right through them and you will see clearly what i am on about here.

Then do a search on who they have thanked and who have thanked them, a pattern will form very quickly and this is what needs to be stamped out on this forum, so yes i say get rid of the offenders and we might just have what we all really want.... progress !!!!.